Necro's pure righteous fire build HC, 90% phy dmg reduction, cheap! (5 seconds piety vid) lvl89

Yeah I think I'm in a similar position ... I started playing again (last time was like 2 years ago in CB) about 5 days ago ... I started levelling a witch and cleared normal but a friend I want to play with said minion builds weren't so great (and with that change to cast on death and minions today I'm glad I swapped) ... so figured as I unlocked the Scion I'd give her a shot as I hadn't played her in beta ... looked through the builds, found this ... thought it was really cool, I liked the idea of stacking life to gain deeps (though I didn't follow some of your passives exactly, then weirdly looked at the different section on your current build and it looked almost exactly like mine - just not using EE and have less points) ... been playing pretty solidly over the weekend and have gotten to 69 now (yeah, I'm fairly impressed with myself, never much of a power leveller and I went through most solo as I'm a bit OCD about clearing) ... so yeah, hitting 69, xp gains getting real slow just farming the docks (even though with all the life and no deeps passive I can barely scratch stuff - luckily I'm grouping for this with people who seem to use totems or discharge and annihilate everything in no time) ... wanted to now switch to RF so I can do maps ... I knew I couldn't afford the shield (only found 3 chaos so far) but asked around and I don't think standard is maybe as bad as the league cos it seems to be 1ex for a crappy roll up to 2 for a good one with nice slots but now I'm just worried that it'll keep rising in price quicker than I can gain funds (though I'm hoping that'll improve because someone like 5 levels below me said they'd found 20 chaos levelling their char so I think I'm on the lower side of the rng and so hopefully will expect slightly higher earnings than I've had so far) ...

In Feb when the league does end and everything gets merged will we expect the price of things like the shield to rise or fall in standard?

I tried popping RF to see what it did (with maxed fire res, like 77% I think) ... 0 hp in about 8 seconds, haha .... so yeah I think the shield is essential ... I think I'm going to just try jumping into all the piety/dominus parties from now on rather than farming for XP and just hope to get something I can sell off or trade for a shield, even a crappy one slot one, then maybe replace it with a better one once I've been mapping ...


Edit: Just found out today I should have been saving my rares (and identifying them) and selling them off in sets - this is why I'm poor, haha ... and I even asked my friend about this damnnit.

UGH just RIP'd my scion to rare fractured porcupine creature (spikes-on-death-thing)
good I was lvl 62 and didnt equip the shield yet.

Id like to reroll as marauder (im SICK of scions :P), are there ANY nodes scion can grab and marauder cant? Like, does spell damage or whatnot increase RF damage?
Could you post your build for lvl 100, with all points used?

Also, are you SURE about the Fire penetration? All the gem description says is 'penetrates x % of fire resistance', doesnt say anything about casting or whatnot. And since flammability works (it does work, doesnt it?) then maybe this too?

One more thing - what do you think about using that unique wand that lets you have two curses at once? Flammability AND elemental weakness at once sounds pretty sick.

Hello guys!! Im having problems with the build, I followed until lvl 65 and now when I try RF I dont regen enought HP, also I have Rise of the Phoenix, Purity lvl 16 and Vitality lvl 15, my fire resist is 121% capped at 87%.
My current passive tree is:

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgAAAdwCcQSzBS0SaRccFy8ZLhmFGmwb-iSqJLAl3yfVJ-0pTy3SNZI26TrYPC1Bh0d-TP9QUFRJWGNfP2BLYSFlTWh0cXlyqXTteA1673y7fNmApITZhO-G0YjxjM-UoJ2uogCkGaluq8WsWayqr2y18rc-ud2-isRYxPbFisauxtjUj9hN2mLi6uNq5CLnUudj7DjvDvAf8i_z3fZI-ej60v4K

Where is the problem? because i follow the excel page and i should have
Total Degen (in %) 7,416
Total Life Reg (in %) 10,234


EDIT: I tryed getting some regen nodes more and I still losing HP, this is the current build:

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgAAAdwCcQSzBS0MXxJpFxwXLxjbGS4ZhRpsG_ohYCSqJLAl3yfVJ-0pTzWSNuk62DwtQKBBh0d-TP9QUFRJWGNfP2BLYSFlTWh0dO108XgNeu98u4CkhNmE74bRiPGMz5Sgna6iAKQZqW6rxaxZrUqvbLXytz653b6KxFjE9sWKxq7G2M0m1I_YTdpi4urjauQi51LnY-w47w7wH_Iv8932SPno-tL-Cg==

Thanks in advance!!

Maybe its because of the cluster in the duellist area that boosts DoT damage? Doesnt that boost damage done to yourself too?

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benjiwoosh wrote:

Maybe its because of the cluster in the duellist area that boosts DoT damage? Doesnt that boost damage done to yourself too?

Apparently not according to the wiki ... says that was changed in some patch to effect damage to monsters only ...

" As of Patch 1.0.2 x% increased Burning Damage and x% increased Fire Damage no longer increases the self-inflicted damage, but does increase damage to monsters."



But as for the guy above then this worries me ... we have similar builds (though I haven't gotten up to the +fire damage bits yet) ... there is also one passive that gives you 0.2% life regen per endurance charge and I'm at 7 most of the time ... but I hope there hasn't been a change in how it works ... I'll be gutted if I eventually manage to get the shield then all the gimped levelling up (level 71, less than 400dps atm) will have been for nought.

Oh, maybe try keeping a vit totem up on you? I like to have one of those around most times ... but it'll suck if you're losing health while just running about ... I was just gonna use my totem for heals from monster damage.

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benjiwoosh wrote:

Maybe its because of the cluster in the duellist area that boosts DoT damage? Doesnt that boost damage done to yourself too?

Nope, with that I have decreased considerably the degen but isn't enough (now i have like 3 hp per second), anyway with the first build (a copy of the lvl 65 build from this post) i get a crazy degen when it should be have more regen than degen.

Well, waiting if someone can solve it :)

Thanks!

Was doing the math in my head in the shower and I've figured it out ...

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Shezbeth wrote:

My fire resist is 121% capped at 87%.

Where is the problem? because i follow the excel page and i should have
Total Degen (in %) 7,416
Total Life Reg (in %) 10,234

I've not looked at the calculator ... but if your fire resist is 87% ... and righteous fire burns for 90% of your HP per second ... then you'd be taking 90%*(1-0.87) = 11.7% health degen per second ... and you've listed your regen at 10.234, hence why you'd be taking damage.


Necro said something interesting on the first page about putting your purity of fire gem in a slot that adds to the gem level to try and get your max resistance up to 90% (if yours was 90% then you'd be taking 9% damage per second and so would be okay .... I think an effective PoF gem of 23 would give you +5% max fire resist (which'd make 90% in total) ... and therefore would make things okay ...


Glad I solved this, I will be able to sleep tonight ... though it does mean I've now gotta make sure I'm leveling up my PoF gem constantly and might have to also buy some kind of fancy weapon, which is a pain as I can't even get the shield, haha ....



Edit: just checked mine ... it's only level 16 (almost 17) even though I've made sure to have it equipped (if possible) since I got it ... so I guess a weapon that adds to gem level is gonna be totally necessary.

Edit 2: ... At +4% (gem level 20) you'd be taking 9.9 damage so would still be fine... at +3% (gem level 17) you'd be taking 10.8 dps so would just be taking some damage... so I guess try and get your gem up one more level and get a little bit more regen, or boost up the gem level to 20 using an appropriate slot ... (here's the levels + max resists http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Purity_of_fire) ....

(on the first page necros is a level 19 gem in a weapon that add 1 to the gem level)

Hope all this helped ...

Edit 3: I swear I'm going to bed this time ... but having a look at it then I'd probably get your gem up to 17, take the passive that gives regen on endurance charges (I have max 7, so that's 1.4% more hp regen) ... then if you're just stood around cast a vit totem they have massive regen (and keep one up in battle if you can) ... but in fights if you're using enduring cry you should have plenty of endurance charges so be fine ...

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Shezbeth wrote:

With the current price of Rise of the Phoenix I cant afford it, Is any other option to continue this build without that shield? because I have my Scion lvling up because in the begining it was a cheap build but now...

Thanks for any possible solution!

I would try trade, I spent about 2 minutes in trade and was able to pick mine up for 10 chaos



Terrible rolls but for 10 chaos, it didn't really bother me

+2 fire lvl rare wpn + sovergeinity + inner force + lvl18 pof = 6max res?
I spent alot of time thinking how poor player gets his hands on 6max res pof and that is my recipe. Please tell me its working. 1.49*4 rounds into 6 I hope.

Right got a shield ... happy times ... now for some questions.

1) Hrimnor's Resolve ... are we for or against this? I've seen them go for as little as 1 chaos ... but if you could get a +20% fire damage one it might be good (+30% would prob be too expensive) ... http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Hrimnor%27s_Resolve

2) Does RF work with the increase rarity and increase quantity gems? ... eg ideally would you have it 6 slotted (with those and inc burning, inc area and inc conc) so get maximum loots? ... (I've noticed some parties require you to have mf, but seems it'd be better for a culler to do that ... but still)

3) As RF is snapshotted then you could just cast it in a chest piece (or whatever) with shed loads of health and good links for the support gems... then swap that entire set for something more useful like with loads of resists/etc/other skills ... yeah? I think I saw you do that in in a video necro.

4) Does cast when damage taken proc from RF? ... I would experiment but they are a bit pricey to buy one then find out it doesn't work.


I had more but can't remeber them now and need to get foods - been to excited playing, it's nice to feel useful again because approaching 72 was rubbish doing basically no deeps/

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B_rock wrote:

I would try trade, I spent about 2 minutes in trade and was able to pick mine up for 10 chaos

Yeah good call ... after seeing this (this morning) I went and traded all my alts for choas (but because I was a bit excited about it I did the math wrong and got ripped, haha) and so managed to get 10 total ... I couldn't get a shield for that but managed to find someone who'd trade them + multistrike (which I'd just gotten and I think is worth a few c) for teh shield ... it's an alrightish roll and 2 red 1 blue slot which is nice currently only RR is linked but might waste some fuse trying to get it all linked or prob wont, I don't know the chances of that... anyway, happy days.

(Oh but you were lucky with 2mins, took me a few hours start to finish (but obviously I'd go grind whilst waiting)



Oh and to that person I did all that math for last night before going to bed (did you ever read my post about why you're getting damage) ... I too am taking a bit of damage (lvl 17 purity of fire) ... but it's totally manageable ... if there's nothing around me I just put a vit totem down to regen (and try and keep one alive in battle anyway) ... if it's during a fight then with some endurance charges I'm not taking any degen (I have the passive that gives regen for them) ... and with the full 7 then I get a lil bit of overall regen ... but I'll be looking to level up purity of fire to 18 and trying to get a sceptre with +2 to fire gems so that I don't have to waste time near totems when going back to look for loots.