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Was inner force changed?	Posted by FreshWaterAngler#0542 on Jan 13, 2013, 1:50:42 PM Quote this Post
" Only_Forward wrote: Was inner force changed? Dave said it got nerfed.	Posted by Shadowness_#1803 on Jan 13, 2013, 2:11:13 PM Quote this Post
Stop spreading nonsense. Inner Force is not nerfed on the build of alpha kripp is playing on. It COULD be nerfed tomororw! And then it could be unnerfed before the OB patch. Its status is unknown as the developers have not commented on it. As Kripp has revealed, flat auras have been (largely) nerfed, making their abuse with IF and EB less 'mandatory'. My Keystone Ideas: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/744282	Posted by anubite#0701 on Jan 13, 2013, 2:17:42 PM Alpha Member Quote this Post
" TeeloBrown wrote: You guys really suck at spotting changes for me :P Chain was nerfed, yo! Actually, it was buffed. Pack size density can be much, much higher now. My Keystone Ideas: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/744282	Posted by anubite#0701 on Jan 13, 2013, 2:18:56 PM Alpha Member Quote this Post
And thats not even close to what they did now and not to talk when Open Beta comes the list will be way long you wont read you will just go play PoE :)	Posted by Foronisus#7794 on Jan 13, 2013, 2:19:19 PM Quote this Post
" anubite wrote: Stop spreading nonsense. Inner Force is not nerfed on the build of alpha kripp is playing on. It COULD be nerfed tomororw! And then it could be unnerfed before the OB patch. Its status is unknown as the developers have not commented on it. As Kripp has revealed, flat auras have been (largely) nerfed, making their abuse with IF and EB less 'mandatory'. I find this kind of rediculous. While a case could be made for IF, I simply find that EB, though viable and different, is highly inefficient when it comes down to it. 12+ EB 70+ toons later, and being one of the most prolific and loving fans of the node, even I will not be doing an EB toon in OB for quite some time.	Posted by EpsiIon#3923 on Jan 13, 2013, 2:19:44 PM Quote this Post
Also, spell totem IS NOT 350%. I don't even know where people got that false information. Kripp's stream even showed it as 250%. " janome21 wrote: " anubite wrote: Gonna post this again for everyone's benefit No one on alpha has posted significant in-depth feedback on totem or CI changes yet. None of us has had the chance to properly play with them. Thus, we cannot offer concrete feedback to Qarl. Thus, until this happens, Qarl can't really do anything. It is likely that Qarl will change something about CI/totems once he receives enough feedback. I agree they are over-nerfed. But the point is, we are testing on alpha. Regarding what you saw on Kripp's stream as a final alpha patch is nonsense. Totems and CI could be the same in 10 days as they are on beta, if Qarl decides they can't balance either just yet. I do not mean to judge you harshly, but I highly suggest testing the ability of two of the most popular builds of the game. You may not like to hear it, but not everyone is going to enjoy the fact that their way to play the game no longer functions. Simply put, if even ten percent of the game's population left and reported negative views to their gaming peers, would it affect the future of the game? It is severally misguided to judge alpha testers as though they are responsible for ANY of the changes that have taken place. We give feedback, the developers decide to do what they will with it. Our testing ability should not be under question, as we know what we're doing and most of us provide in-depth balanced feedback. " EpsiIon wrote: " anubite wrote: Stop spreading nonsense. Inner Force is not nerfed on the build of alpha kripp is playing on. It COULD be nerfed tomororw! And then it could be unnerfed before the OB patch. Its status is unknown as the developers have not commented on it. As Kripp has revealed, flat auras have been (largely) nerfed, making their abuse with IF and EB less 'mandatory'. I find this kind of rediculous. While a case could be made for IF, I simply find that EB, though viable and different, is highly inefficient when it comes down to it. 12+ EB 70+ toons later, and being one of the most prolific and loving fans of the node, even I will not be doing an EB toon in OB for quite some time. The strongest build ever made in POE still uses EB. It is strong. My Keystone Ideas: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/744282 Last edited by anubite#0701 on Jan 13, 2013, 2:22:18 PM	Posted by anubite#0701 on Jan 13, 2013, 2:21:09 PM Alpha Member Quote this Post
" anubite wrote: " TeeloBrown wrote: You guys really suck at spotting changes for me :P Chain was nerfed, yo! Actually, it was buffed. Pack size density can be much, much higher now. mmm... I think arguing that the overall change to chain is a buff (in its current state on alpha) would be a tough sell. Last edited by TeeloBrown#7796 on Jan 13, 2013, 2:34:45 PM	Posted by TeeloBrown#7796 on Jan 13, 2013, 2:28:18 PM Quote this Post
@Anu Yes anu, I know that, been there, done that. The fact is that line of balancing logic is based around balancing something on its strongest possible outlier. In practice and on paper, that is simply neither good, smart or logical.	Posted by EpsiIon#3923 on Jan 13, 2013, 2:31:25 PM Quote this Post
" EpsiIon wrote: @Anu Yes anu, I know that, been there, done that. The fact is that line of balancing logic is based around balancing something on its strongest possible outlier. In practice and on paper, that is simply neither good, smart or logical. I'm not saying to nerf EB. I don't even want inner force to be nerfed (well, changed wouldn't be bad, but nerfed, no). I'm just saying, if the developers do it, there is reasonable justification. Inner Force is very powerful in how it interacts with the (nearby) EB, Granite Flasks, potentially new Diamond Flask, Quicksilver flask, et cetera My Keystone Ideas: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/744282 Last edited by anubite#0701 on Jan 13, 2013, 2:40:08 PM	Posted by anubite#0701 on Jan 13, 2013, 2:38:54 PM Alpha Member Quote this Post