[VIDEO]The Battle Mage/Witch - CI cold crit [NEMESIS]

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kreeptik wrote:
Shadow FP crit, double curse perma ,life base(lvling with static blow), taryn shiver+Koam , triple aura(haste60,vitality40,determination60)53% increase aura /Armor gear base possible to get close to 300% life (

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http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYAAP0CcQL-BLMOSBGWFE0UsBXnFm8WvxcvF1AZhRo4GmwkPCSqJ6kpTy9vNuk6MDrYPC1Cw0lRTC1M_03YVcZV1liuWm1bWV3yYeJirGTnZk9wUnC7cNVzs35Zf8aApIFJgW-CHoKbh9uIQojxjDaMdo5kj0aQVZuhnaOdqp2unjyftKIAoqOnCKdcp4SsmK9ssji1BLb6tz7AUcHFxYrGrs9l0NDVT9ad2RPa3d5334TjauOE5CLnY-w48B_wa_Id8-r3pvfX-tL8q_4K


the tree is really wrong tbh and you shouldnt think of respeccing imo! here is what i recommend if you are going kaoms heart and taryns shiver


this is how baker the level 100 #1 hc player played his shadow FP(the only one to reach hc level 100 when it was the hardest, not now where xp experiance have been buffed where its much easier to level)

shadow fp and i suggest you do it this way where u will have it much easier and even have more life =) and i bet you can ask him also for some advice, he will be streaming later today i think so you can always ask him question in twitch chat at http://www.twitch.tv/bakerlive he is a really great guy so dont be scared for asking question ;)
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sorry u died to reflect :(
No Vaal Pact because ... ??
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theamazingjojo wrote:
No Vaal Pact because ... ??


because i cant afford the points, its either no dmg and vp and die because u cant leech enough to sustain the damage you take or have damage and outleech everything, didnt have much problem on reflect map untill i shotgun 10 mobs on a reflect map(it was fracture that i was in f ront of and then when i shotgun i died) which would have killed me anyways with VP
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Last edited by Makavelit0t0#1129 on Dec 21, 2013, 2:09:20 PM
Hi I've been looking at your build for a a while and I decided to convert my already existing witch into this :) I do have a couple questions
What if I replace the dream fragment by a second "the Taming" and use a alpha's howl ? I'd still have freeze invulnerability + additional resist and dmg I am just worried about mana regen but what do you think ? would it be viable ? I happen to have funds for this and I want to max out on dmg w/o compromising survival also I play in domination.
Let me know what you think or if you have better suggestions :) thanks and GL on the new witch
Last edited by Yaskays#4002 on Dec 21, 2013, 4:49:40 PM
rip man :/ ele reflect too strong.
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Makavelit0t0 wrote:
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theamazingjojo wrote:
No Vaal Pact because ... ??


because i cant afford the points, its either no dmg and vp and die because u cant leech enough to sustain the damage you take or have damage and outleech everything, didnt have much problem on reflect map untill i shotgun 10 mobs on a reflect map(it was fracture that i was in f ront of and then when i shotgun i died) which would have killed me anyways with VP


You wouldnt have died with vp, its all take dmg - leech back straight after on a per hit basis, FP with gmp never has enough base dmg or crit multi to outdo the es globe in one hit, unlike flicker strike for example. Even with double reflect. On a non -max res map maybe, although for that you could use purity and sapphires and still survive. Without vp, once the hits exceed the 24% leech cap significantly you die, which is what happened here.

I can understand the points issue, though I looked at the tree and its not that far away. You might consider it next time you build, its really good with this build.
Last edited by theamazingjojo#6642 on Dec 22, 2013, 9:44:07 AM
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theamazingjojo wrote:
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Makavelit0t0 wrote:
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theamazingjojo wrote:
No Vaal Pact because ... ??


because i cant afford the points, its either no dmg and vp and die because u cant leech enough to sustain the damage you take or have damage and outleech everything, didnt have much problem on reflect map untill i shotgun 10 mobs on a reflect map(it was fracture that i was in f ront of and then when i shotgun i died) which would have killed me anyways with VP


You wouldnt have died with vp, its all take dmg - leech back straight after on a per hit basis, FP with gmp never has enough base dmg or crit multi to outdo the es globe in one hit, unlike flicker strike for example. Even with double reflect. On a non -max res map maybe, although for that you could use purity and sapphires and still survive. Without vp, once the hits exceed the 24% leech cap significantly you die, which is what happened here.

I can understand the points issue, though I looked at the tree and its not that far away. You might consider it next time you build, its really good with this build.


i would rather not take it untill i would be level 95 so i dont need to waste points to get it, and yes its to many points for getting it you waste 7 points for just getting to VP and you lose damage and will do nothing in maps and yes i would die either way with VP since the reflect is 18% and i had 8.8% life leech with 20% which means i leech in a faster rate, you have to think about that i had a lot of damage and sacrifising 7 points for other stuff i wouldnt nor damage or ES i never had problem in reflect map either untill i shotgun a fracture mob which was really unlucky and shotgun not just 1 mob but several mobs, because on reflect map i never had problem with reflect even in shotgun range.
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Last edited by Makavelit0t0#1129 on Dec 22, 2013, 6:10:18 PM
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Makavelit0t0 wrote:
i would rather not take it untill i would be level 95 so i dont need to waste points to get it, and yes its to many points for getting it you waste 7 points for just getting to VP and you lose damage and will do nothing in maps and yes i would die either way with VP since the reflect is 18% and i had 8.8% life leech with 20% which means i leech in a faster rate, you have to think about that i had a lot of damage and sacrifising 7 points for other stuff i wouldnt nor damage or ES i never had problem in reflect map either untill i shotgun a fracture mob which was really unlucky and shotgun not just 1 mob but several mobs, because on reflect map i never had problem with reflect even in shotgun range.


There is no rate with VP ... its INSTANT ... you just dont die with vaal pact, you clearly never used it on any build :) Its ONLY 7 points, you are not sacrificing that much as you say for it, and whatever you sacrifice its well worth it, ask anyone who has FP CI ... even if you sacrifice some dmg, do you have that bad a wand and shield? And as you said yourself by level 95 you get all the points back ... every CI FP build i know has VP .... heck nearly every CI build i know has it!

Even with double reflect you cannot die (if you know what you are doing), all the take dmg - leech back action is done on a PER HIT basis, even if you hit a million mobs in a split second, you dont die unless you exceed your ES in one hit. Because you take dmg before healing. With FP GMP, this doesn't happen. You die without VP because you cannot leech more than 24% per second. And suddenly, if you are hitting a lot of reflect targets - as happened to you - the damage tends to accumulate all at once after a split second or two, because of how GMP works. With VP, this is not an issue. I dont know how to make this any more clear. But I will try.

Lets say you have 500% increased damage, 900 crit multi ... this is insane, nearly no one has this on FP. With double reflect and GMP and 50 res (-25 max res) that is ...

273 x 0.5 x 6 x 9 x 0.33 x 0.5 = 1216 on a very extreme case which just wont happen, you have much more than 1.2k ES for sure. Even if you curse them and they are at -100 res, you still survive. CI gets tons of ES.

Now to calculate if you will survive or not,

Damage taken is 273 x 0.5 x 6 x 9 x 0.33 x 0.25 on double reflect and 75 res = 608 per hit
Damage leeched is 273 x 0.5 x 6 x 9 x 0.088 = 648 per hit, you always outdo the damage taken

The enemy resist is a constant so it doesnt matter.

Double / reflect with -max res is more tricky, you leech as above but you take a bit more dmg so you either use a sapphire (enough for single reflect to again make your leech outdo the damage) or even use purity of ice on top. Having a reflect map with perfect -max res wont be that common, and its not going to be filled with ele reflect rares anyway. So I wouldnt worry too much about it, its a VERY extreme case. If you do encounter it, you could keep 2 sapphire flasks with surgeon's / perpetual / ample prefixes and play carefully.

You had single reflect with 75 res, you would have survived without a doubt. I hope this pile of text helps you to see why.
Last edited by theamazingjojo#6642 on Dec 22, 2013, 9:32:19 PM
Vaal Pact not worth it. Oh wait...

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