What makes a bow good?

Thanks for that in depth research cookie, much appreciated. But, could you summarize those findings for my elementary math mind, you kinda lost me. Thx.

Edit. Nvm just read a little slower and got it, jeez!
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justinloase wrote:
Thanks for that in depth research cookie, much appreciated. But, could you summarize those findings for my elementary math mind, you kinda lost me. Thx.


To count your critical engine. Simple sum up all critical related nodes in your tree and in your equipment. That's your critical engine.
Look at the Breakpoints spoiler. Find closest value to your critical engine value, look at the other side to know your minimal chance to hit with rare bow (with 6,5% base critical chance), to make that rare bow better than Lioneye (of course if both, rare and lioneye have same DPS).

I really don't know how to summarize this, maybe when I will get some rest I will write more. Now I'm just too tired. Just ask what do you need to know.

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justinloase wrote:
Edit. Nvm just read a little slower and got it, jeez!

well ok

Last edited by CookieVortex#2622 on Sep 10, 2013, 1:12:41 AM
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CookieVortex wrote:
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justinloase wrote:
Thanks for that in depth research cookie, much appreciated. But, could you summarize those findings for my elementary math mind, you kinda lost me. Thx.


To count your critical engine. Simple sum up all critical related nodes in your tree and in your equipment. That's your critical engine.
Look at the Breakpoints spoiler. Find closest value to your critical engine value, look at the other side to know your minimal chance to hit with rare bow (with 6,5% base critical chance), to make that rare bow better than Lioneye (of course if both, rare and lioneye have same DPS).

I really don't know how to summarize this, maybe when I will get some rest I will write more. Now I'm just too tired. Just ask what do you need to know.

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justinloase wrote:
Edit. Nvm just read a little slower and got it, jeez!

well ok


No that actually helped, thanks man.
"Truth be told, I have no idea what the fuck is going on anymore." Stephen Hawkins


Something like this is probably in OP's ballpark. Its 280 DPS. Decent bow for a lightning arrow build.
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Agent956 wrote:
I use this piece of shit:



I have 91% acc. The 6.7% base crit is worth it over Lioneye's for me.


If you use lions eye + blackgleam + hatred im pretty sure it would far out perform this rare.

For a bm passive build i imagine theyd be close with the rare overtaking lions if you build heavily into crit.
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MrSmiley21 wrote:


Something like this is probably in OP's ballpark. Its 280 DPS. Decent bow for a lightning arrow build.


Not selling are you? My LA toon needs an upgrade:

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Nephalim wrote:
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Agent956 wrote:
I use this piece of shit:



I have 91% acc. The 6.7% base crit is worth it over Lioneye's for me.


If you use lions eye + blackgleam + hatred im pretty sure it would far out perform this rare.

For a bm passive build i imagine theyd be close with the rare overtaking lions if you build heavily into crit.


This is not true. I already use hatred with my build and I used a Lioneye's before I used this bow. The DPS is higher with this bow. It is also a lot easier to maintain power charges with higher crit chance. 34% with Lioneye's vs 46% with this bow. I do use a heavy crit build, and a crit quiver (which can have life) is vastly better than Blackgleam for my particular build.
I would also like a bow like Agent's!I have a crit elemental archer and have this as
a weapon.


Docks drop.Ideally the best weapon would be a high physical/high crit bow.
Since the change of reflect mechanic Lioneye's isn't the best bow for evasion builds
since you can't evade the reflected damage while I have seen my ranger evade reflected
damage.I don't know if ondar's guile works against reflect.

Also I don't know why so many people go LG and Blackgleam.If you have a LG make a crit/IR
physical build for god's sake !
To crit or not to crit ?
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Agent956 wrote:
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Nephalim wrote:
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Agent956 wrote:
I use this piece of shit:



I have 91% acc. The 6.7% base crit is worth it over Lioneye's for me.


If you use lions eye + blackgleam + hatred im pretty sure it would far out perform this rare.

For a bm passive build i imagine theyd be close with the rare overtaking lions if you build heavily into crit.


This is not true. I already use hatred with my build and I used a Lioneye's before I used this bow. The DPS is higher with this bow. It is also a lot easier to maintain power charges with higher crit chance. 34% with Lioneye's vs 46% with this bow. I do use a heavy crit build, and a crit quiver (which can have life) is vastly better than Blackgleam for my particular build.


Interesting, that bow does not even have ias and it still outperforms a lions. Well it just goes to show how far we are from getting perfect rares.
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Check out my LA build: 1782214
Surprisingly the same top 3 bows has been sitting in the same top bow spots for over 6 months. which I believe are 39xdps 38xdps and 37x dps thicket. I wonder why no one ever try to crafting anything better than that current top 3 bows.
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