What makes a bow good?

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Kinda wish someone out there are willing to dash out couple hundred ex for a 400+ dps bow. I am sure plenty of people will be waiting in line for mirroring a top crafted bow.

At the time I spoke to the owner of this bow, he was okay with it being mirrored. There are more mirror-worthy bows floating around, their owners simply don't post them.


As for how good, exactly, a bow has to be to beat Glare? This good. 200 phys dps, 240 total DPS, 6.5 crit. It matched a 300DPS Glare on tooltip damage and performed much better in actual testing, due to higher crit rate.
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I am in the same boat as the op, before I shell out all the currency I have on a lionseye though is this bow good enough with WED gear?

I have passives for crit, pretty much all of the ones I can (I crit @ 21% as is right now, @.29 attacks a second, someone said that crits are more likely to "induce elemental statuses" is why I have so much, I really hope that's true I guess, I never checked.) (I'm a glass cannon, like 1.6k hp with crumby gear, will be around 2.5k at around 67).

Anyway, this is the bow I'm using, should I shell out my 1 exalt+change that hopefully is another exalt for a lionseye or am I sitting pretty as is?

Last edited by steven_mcburn#0891 on Sep 10, 2013, 10:08:03 PM
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steven_mcburn wrote:
I am in the same boat as the op, before I shell out all the currency I have on a lionseye though is this bow good enough with WED gear?

I have passives for crit, pretty much all of the ones I can (I crit @ 21% as is right now, @.29 attacks a second, someone said that crits are more likely to "induce elemental statuses" is why I have so much, I really hope that's true I guess, I never checked.) (I'm a glass cannon, like 1.6k hp with crumby gear, will be around 2.5k at around 67).

Anyway, this is the bow I'm using, should I shell out my 1 exalt+change that hopefully is another exalt for a lionseye or am I sitting pretty as is?


lions only really shines if youre using LA+blackgleam and hopefulyl also hatred. theres very few physical bow builds that would benefit from an unconverted lionseye build.


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here is what make a bow good....

DAMAGE STATS...

LULZZZZZ


aim for:

160% + phys roll
20-40 + phys flat roll
hybrid phys + accuracy OR high flat elemental damage roll.

for suffixes, aim for double crit roll + attack speed.


The max dps a bow can have IN THEORY is 468 dps. (THIS DOES NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT CRIT MODS)


also some of the few reasons why Lionseye is so great overall are: 1.8 max attack speed (cant get that with any other bow I THINK)

high pure phys dmg (gets converted to elemental depending on skill and build)

and of course, you cant miss and you can crit.

Rare bows are best overall, but in the end, depends on need / build.

For example, lets say you are level 95+ and doing maps all the time. Best bow for you IS the new unique bow, because you wont kill yourself to reflect. godly rare bows and lionseye will kill you on reflect in a heart beat. And dying at level 95 + is a HUGEEEEEEEEE setback in terms of TIME WASTE, CURRENCY WASTED TO ROLL MAPS, AND MAPS WASTED.


Sure its awesome to have 8K lightin arrow dps and 50k frenzy single target.... and if u dont care about losing xp to deaths GO FOR IT. you will have a great time.

But when it comes to end game leveling, not dying >>>>>>>>>>>> high dps.
Last edited by BuDiu#0138 on Sep 10, 2013, 10:38:56 PM
If thats the case, an ES vaal pact build with a 200 ex thicket would be the best bow build right?

followed by voltaxic crit.
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Nephalim wrote:
If thats the case, an ES vaal pact build with a 200 ex thicket would be the best bow build right?

followed by voltaxic crit.


sorry in what case =]

i mentioned a few possible scenarios.

for max dps possible = rare thicket.

for best dps for tight budget = lionseye

for high end leveling to avoid deaths at all costs = voltaxic
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BuDiu wrote:
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Nephalim wrote:
If thats the case, an ES vaal pact build with a 200 ex thicket would be the best bow build right?

followed by voltaxic crit.


sorry in what case =]

i mentioned a few possible scenarios.

for max dps possible = rare thicket.

for best dps for tight budget = lionseye

for high end leveling to avoid deaths at all costs = voltaxic


I meant ES vaal pact as a means to mitigate reflect while still being able to use a rare thicket. So basically the best of both worlds.
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Nephalim wrote:
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BuDiu wrote:
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Nephalim wrote:
If thats the case, an ES vaal pact build with a 200 ex thicket would be the best bow build right?

followed by voltaxic crit.


sorry in what case =]

i mentioned a few possible scenarios.

for max dps possible = rare thicket.

for best dps for tight budget = lionseye

for high end leveling to avoid deaths at all costs = voltaxic


I meant ES vaal pact as a means to mitigate reflect while still being able to use a rare thicket. So basically the best of both worlds.


yea it would be the best of both worlds, but the problem is, most good bow nodes and alot of the crit bow stuff is not near the ES nodes and going to vaal pact will make you waste a good chunck of nodes.

so i think HP build is still superior.

its a little more dangerous on reflect, but you shouldn't kill yourself that easy UNLESS its a -max resist map with reflect.
also id like to add that what most people do to counter reflect on builds without vaal pact is:

switch weapon ele damage gem for life leech.

you can also turn off light / fire damage auras. Or you can go all the way and use Frenzy with LMP / CHAIN or Multi Shot with Chain + faster attacks.

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BuDiu wrote:
also id like to add that what most people do to counter reflect on builds without vaal pact is:

switch weapon ele damage gem for life leech.

you can also turn off light / fire damage auras. Or you can go all the way and use Frenzy with LMP / CHAIN or Multi Shot with Chain + faster attacks.



or you can just blindly shoot right in and crit the daylights out of them and not give a flying fuck.

ty vaal pact

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