Official Blender Post! Lets theory craft for 1.2! 123k Cleave DPS!

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cas5nq wrote:

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MrH4T wrote:

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cas5nq wrote:

Skill build looks good, but I have some suggestions:

1) Replace the 2x6% resist all nodes with 3x18% resist each in the Scion tree. Gain access to 15% phys damage.
2) Replace 3x3% ias nodes in the ranger tree with 2 dex nodes and gain access to 3x8% life.
This creates a deficit of 4 skill points, but there are numerous 10% phys damage nodes taken that can be dismissed. The trade-off:

-25% phys damage
-9% ias
+6% resist all
+24% max life
+20 dex

Since this is a low dex build, +20 dex helps meet dex requirements for high-dex gear.

Alternatively, 3 of the skill points away from Berserking, and the trade-offs become:

+5% phys dmg
-27% ias
+6% resist all
+24% max life
+20 dex

Since this build should already have at least 2-300% ias with multi strike, I think the extra ias is not worth it. thoughts?

imo putting skill points in dex and res is a waste cuz their cap can be achieved through items(u only need enough dex for gear and gems requirement), while life ias and physdmg should be stacked as much as possible (theres no such thing as too much dps or life;)

But what if you don't have enough dex to equip gear, or you don't have enough max resists and you have to swap out a +dps item or +life item for more resists? PLUS you get 24% more life, and as you said, you can never have too much life If you take the later trade-off, it seems worth losing 27% ias to gain 5% dmg, 6% resists, 24% life, and 20 dex.

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cas5nq wrote:

If it's not worth spending an extra skill point to get 6% resist all, then why even get the 2x6% resist all nodes? Wouldn't it be ideal to not take these at all, if we value resists so little?

Basically, there are some inconsistencies in the build that I question. We've shown that it's worth spending a skill point for 6% resists, or 10% damage. But we can easily take the 3x18% resist nodes which is still an average of 6% and gain access to +15% damage. and 20 dex and 8% health seems far better than 9% ias.

I am also confused why the 120 skill point build has many terminal nodes in 10% dmg. You could have gotten the bandit quest reward of 18% instead. I'm also pretty sure +40 life from the bandit reward is better than 8% max life, but I'm not sure how to do the calculation to be positive. So shouldn't we really be optimizing for 117 or 118 skill points?

Let's assume 118 skill points, taking the +40 life and 18% dmg. Take 3 away from berserking and its prereqs, 2x6% resist nodes, and 1x10% dmg node. Use the spare 4 points to get 18% in each element + 15% dmg in the scion tree.

tl;dr

-21% ias
+23% dmg
+40 life
+6% resist all

I'm not sure if dps will go up or down (depends on total ias and +%dmg), but if it does go down, I would bet the benefit of +40 life and 6% resist all is better, no?

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DO NOT LEVEL UP CAST ON DAMAGE TAKEN! - Leveling the skill itself causes the amount of damage you must take before it casts to rise a lot, meaning less curses, less totems, less charges. You can however level the skills it supports.

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Armenozaur wrote:

''DO NOT LEVEL UP CAST ON DAMAGE TAKEN! - Leveling the skill itself causes the amount of damage you must take before it casts to rise a lot, meaning less curses, less totems, less charges. You can however level the skills it supports.''

is it still valid? cause its not working for me at all