Crafting? Don't be silly, just buy the item.

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Wittgenstein wrote:

The issue that needs to be addressed is why the playerbase tells those that complain or those that are new to avoid the system the dev's put in place and simply buy the item they want. If the system is so bad that the best suggestion is to avoid it, it needs fixing.

I agree with this 100%. And since i'm one of those players that actually wants to play this with self found gear I really have no options left. Playing the game = enjoying the game for me personally. Enjoyment out of crafting is taken away and trading has never really been something for me. The richest guy get's anything he wants. Capitalism at it's finest.

(P.S. Fix the desync)

When i made my sporker i wanted a new chest for her so i started to gamble since i had many fusings in my stash



It took to me:
~200 scraps
~100 fusings
~40 chaos

Gamble is one of the most addictive patterns

if you won progressively you would get bored in a while

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zinger wrote:

Bye.

your response is disrespectful, at least provide something that back the RNG system.

And I do agree to the OP, why spending too much currency on a white item just to get what you want while you can just buy it with less that crafting it.

I have played the game enough just to realize that crafting is a game of chance. If you want something farm it or buy it.

edit: After reading this thread, GGG needs to make some crafting recipes for certain gears and it will be much like the vendor recipes for orbs.

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Skullchukka wrote:

Level 77 Templar, anarchy.

After spending 600+ jewellers to 6S a 760 ES vaal regilia,
And getting only 5S,

And after spending 500 fusings to 5L a silly vaal regilia,
Im left with a 2L vaal regilia.

How many armor scraps have you spent?

Crafting here is like a casino. Except that every sector of PoE roulette says "Fuck You".

ZOMG this thread is long, and its only been a few hours.

I had a 6L item once, know where i got it? The vendor delivered it to me, and sold for 3 chaos orbs.

Is that a low price for it, why it was white not rolled in any way WAIT, how about everyone re-read that last part ... no affix/prefix , end game level but i thought its only worth 3 chaos.

How many have actually gone through the pain of just rolling stats?

Any idea how many Alts, Augs, Divines, Exalts, it actually takes to make something even half-worth-the-poop?

Crafting in this game is a joke, 700-800 jeweler orbs + Fusings shards or not very well consummed already high numbered needed Materials leaving a person with Wha... Nothing !

Agree with this crap system all you want, this game should have never been referred and not saying any other ARPG is any better, was against them from the beginning.

wasnt expecting to get anything but 4sockets and 4l and give it to a friend for leveling up

ended up getting this in 3jewls and 5chroms or so i was amazed and decided to keep the item :P

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SL4Y3R wrote:

good/great? Seriously? How about 6L = best in game. Its supposed to be the ultimate thing to get. Saying it's good, vastly underestimates the power a 6L provides.

Did I even mention 6L in that post? Nope, 6L is a non issue for so many people, unless you're one of those people that literally win the lotto and get it in a few hundred fusing. You're pissing your way into poverty trying to get a 6L item. After 300 fusing(with quality) just trying for a FIVE link item, I've simply given up trying to ever get something of the sort.

As people say 'god' tier items in this game simply aren't sold, so why even factor those? Do you have any idea how much currency people throw into a SINGLE god tier item? 50+ exalts worth of currency at the bare min. Do you have any idea how much currency that is? That is simply unattainable for the vast majority of people(in any reasonable amount of time), again you don't even need to think about it.

Even still, you elitists say a 6L is a luxury item, if it is, why do you get so pissed when someone calls it good/great and they aren't even thinking of it? A white 6L is great, a rare 6L with shitty rolls is best in slot? NOPE. If it doesn't give you what you want/need it never is and never will be best in slot.

Crafting in this game is like a middle class American going to vegas with his life savings and walking straight to the 100$ slot machines. Could he win it big? Sure. But what do you think will REALLY happen? He looses all his money within 10 mins. He doesn't have millions of dollars to throw away like the rich people those slots are DESIGNED for.

Simply put, crafting in this game is designed only for the super rich. If you want a god tier item, you must be rich enough to play those slots for hours on end. If you're not, just play the quarter machines, AKA using only fusings to get a 4link on the helm,glove,boots and maybe a couple chaos every now and then on a 5link weapon/armor you bought.

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oldmanriver wrote:

I really, really, REALLY want to craft my own gear. I wish eternal's would have a drop rate similar to gcp's to make this a little more realistic, but sadly crafting my own gear just doesn't make sense for the foreseeable future.

This sums up my feelings perfectly. I REALLY want to craft my own stuff. But I have no where the amount of goods I need. I play self-found so my stuff is limited. I'm a level 77 Marauder and still haven't found a Divine or Exalted. How exactly can I craft?

And it does play a HUGE role in how far I can get in this game. I had a 4L piece up until level 50 or so, but I kept hitting the wall and nearly stopped playing. I was lucky to get a 5L and what a difference! It was a game changer. Now I'm at 77 in the same spot.

In D2 I couldn't get any of the top runes either... but they weren't really necessary to craft great gear. There were lots of options around them. And at the very least you could upgrade mid-level runes to higher ones.

Anyway, it's frustrating and to me, the biggest drawback in this great game.

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Skullchukka wrote:

I had a vaal regalia with 760 ES, 40 int, 44 lightning res. 4L 5S. It still had 2 exalt slots free. However after burning 6~EX worth currency on it, I ended up with a piece of item that was 1) worse then the version that I have 2) did not allow me to progress anymore since my build didn't work. Surely, after 600+ jewellers and 500+ fusings, I would get a 5L - I thought.

The 4L5S was not worth the eternal obviously. If I had a 5L6S and attempted a 6L (god forbid), I may have used an eternal.

So you see, If I wanted to craft myself a 5L armor from scratch like suggested in the thread, I would have to make a new vaal with 760 ES, int, and a high res roll, or something that comes really close to it. And that is hard. That may require TONS of currency. And If I don't get a similar armor to work on, why would I start investing jewellers / fusings on a piece that is inferior to mine stat-wise?

Edit: This seems more fitting to my original post, I will include it there as well.

The thing is, if GGG just ups the orb drop rates, nothing will change. In fact, trading might become even more viable since everything but the (near)BiS items would become really cheap. Trading will always be better than crafting.