Crafting? Don't be silly, just buy the item.

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RenoR wrote:

I wonder if crafting is really that bad.

In theory, crafting and trading should balance themselves with each other.

If we assume that buying is much more viable, the logical consequence would be that people horde currency and therefore the price(amount of currency) increases. As a result, you(as a buyer)have more and more orbs to spnd on buying or you just take the orbs and craft items yourself.
The higher the price becomes, the more viable crafting becomes.



I think buying vs crafting IS actually balanced but the reason why it does not seem so is because crafting provides the >possibility< to get SUPER GODLIKE items which nobody can afford.

If there is a scale of 0-10000 an item can have quality, then you can buy items on a scale of 0-9999 VERY CHEAP and its not viable trying to craft items which are on the lower top 9999.

However, if you craft, you can get the top 10000 item which might be worth hundreds(?) of exalts which is of course incredible rare and does balance crafting.

Its like lotto: If you have a 1 millionth chance to get 2 Million dollar, you will "never" win, but in the long run, if you hit the jackpot its worth it.

In path of exile its pretty much the same: people buy 500 lotto tickets of crafting for 500$ and then are disappointed, because they dont hit the jackpot. But to hit the jackpot which is worth 2 Millions, they would have to spend 1 Million on tickets and not 500...


The GOD TIER items >nobody sells< balance crafting vs buying.

Yes, as an avarage player you are certainly better off buying medium-high tier gear, but if you truly want to have god gear, your only way to get it is by crafting.



PS.:

When I use orbs of alchemy on items I think about how much it indirectly increases my farm speed.

Finding 5 Orbs of alchemy and 5 high Tier armor(68+) goes pretty fast but if you think about how INCREDIBLE LONG it takes to find 5 rare items of the desired base item, you will become pretty old...

Using orbs DOES increase the chance of getting good items by a LARGE amount compared to just farming.
Of course crafting can be pretty unrewarding, but in the long run you will eventually alch a rare item which is worth 30+ exalts ;)
(after spending ~1500 alchs maybe^^)

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Oakville wrote:

That is why I'll make sure to have back up armors before I try my fusing.

Anyway RNG is RNG however I think developers can do more...

Make it pure random for the first 200 fusing and if more than 200 fusing spent, increase the odds, if another 100 fusing (total of 300 fusing) and still not at least 5L, increase the odds again and increase it so on...

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RenoR wrote:

I think buying vs crafting IS actually balanced but the reason why it does not seem so is because crafting provides the >possibility< to get SUPER GODLIKE items which nobody can afford.

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Wittgenstein wrote:

The issue that needs to be addressed is why the playerbase tells those that complain or those that are new to avoid the system the dev's put in place and simply buy the item they want. If the system is so bad that the best suggestion is to avoid it, it needs fixing.

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kanami2k9 wrote:

Never mind 6L, I spent maybe 2 dozen fusings just trying to 4L a pair of boots & eventually just gave up & bought a better pair for less than I'd spent trying to craft/fix those. & that's when it hit me: this crafting system isn't viable unless you have 100's of orbs to potentially toss into the toilet.

I had a bow whose stats would have been an upgrade that I was trying to get more sockets on. A Jeweler's took it from a 3L, 4S to ONE socket. Yeah, it could have gone either way, but it didn't, & for me anyway, it never seems to. I never did get it to socket/link properly & ended up getting a better bow as a gift from a friend.

Guess the system is ok as-is if you have a billion orbs farmed up, you're inherently lucky, or you're a gambler/masochist.