Shock NEEDS to be changed

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Schn1tt3r wrote:

The problem is, GGG didn't nerf Catalyze and Static blows for mobs, just for players.

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Brigs wrote:

Died instantly again today during 3-hour TA race at Normal ledge by Kuduku, the False God. Instant triple shock stack is the culprit as usual. I even had a bit of lightning res.

Now that I have a better understanding of how shock works(whether or not you are shocked is based on whether the lightning damage surpasses a specific threshold) I agree with Nurvus that changing shock to 6 stacks of 20% would slow shock stacking enough to allow for a timely response. The possibility of being instantly killed would be significantly lower.
For a detailed example, read on:

As it is now(3 stacks of 40%):
Triple shock stacks occur because a crit is 150% the damage of a normal hit. If that breaks the threshold, the second attack, let's say it's not a crit, would do 100%+40%= 140% damage. That's almost as much as the crit, and is also likely to break the threshold, thus applying a second stack. The third stack, again not critting, would deal 180% damage, breaking the threshold yet again, adding a third stack. If you are even alive at this point, a fourth attack deals 220% damage, 70% more that the initial crit. If this all happens in an instant(4 sparks for instance) you take 150(crit)+140+180+220= 690% damage. Let's say you died at 600%

Changing shock from 3 stacks of 40% to 6 stacks of 20% would mean you could likely absorb the second spark(so long as it wasn't a crit) of 120% damage without exceeding the shock threshold. It would take two subsequent lightning damage crits to reach the point where another non-crit spark would likely exceed the shock threshold.

In this scenario, the only way to be instant-killed by 4 sparks would require the first 2 sparks to crit instead of just the first:
150(crit)+170(crit)+140+160= 620% damage.

The odds of 2 spark crits in a row is 4% x 4% = 0.16% thus reducing the odds of instant death significantly. In fact, it's about 25 times less likely.

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PHRandom wrote:

Agreed with 6 stacks of 20% damage.
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But add 5% damage per shock stack for static blows notable passive, as shock stack players wont complain too much. And please remove 10% chance to shock enemy on hit with lightning damage from static blows, as damage increase per stack would be enough for damage threshold. Also for shock nerf sake, reduce chance to shock enemy with lightning damage on same cluster node from 10% to 5%.
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Numbers after both mod to reduce damage per shock stack and static blows tweak:
normal: 100%/120%/140%/160%/180%/200%/220%
static blows: 100%/125%/150%/175%/200%/225%/250%

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TheEnforcer wrote:

in addition to that stack change, i also believe that shock should apply at most 1 stack per cast of a skill to a single target (like how power charge on crit gem gives 1 charge at most per crit).

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TheEnforcer wrote:

in addition to that stack change, i also believe that shock should apply at most 1 stack per cast of a skill to a single target (like how power charge on crit gem gives 1 charge at most per crit).

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TheEnforcer wrote:

in addition to that stack change, i also believe that shock should apply at most 1 stack per cast of a skill to a single target (like how power charge on crit gem gives 1 charge at most per crit).