Guide: The Unrighteous Summoner

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dessloc wrote:

FINDING: Minion Life support gem increases the damage done by UF.


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Amazing work!

Confirmed: Minion life DOES increase BM damage (Guide updated, excuses for the mistake)

Test scenario: Merciless BM vs Merciless Hillock
Decoy totem + 1x BM that has aura on + melee damage.

Findings
Kill time with only summon spectre gem: 37 seconds (tested 3 times).

Kill time with summon spectre + Minion life gem: 31 seconds (tested 3 times).

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dessloc wrote:
Copypastaing my post from the minion guide thread with info from tests I ran with the burning miscreations since it is relevant here:

POST BEGINS

TL;DR Executive Summary: Minion Life DOES increase the damage of UF, as does Increased Burning Damage. Minion Damage and Remote Mine do not materially affect the damage of UF.


I had a bit of time and tested out BMs/specter gem combos. All tests were conducted using one Act 3 Normal BM from Lunaris 2 vs Cruel Twilight Strand Hillock. I made sure the BM had turned on unrighteous fire before getting to Hillock. No auras, curses or summoner uniques were used. All gems were level 16. I started my stopwatch as soon as the BM lit up Hillock. Of course, I did not attack Hillock at all with my summoner.

Baseline: Unsupported Raise Spectre Gem

Run 1- BM kills Hillock in 26.97 seconds
Run 2- BM kills Hillock in 26.99 seconds
Run 3- BM kills Hillock in 27.11 seconds

Combo 1: Raise Spectre + Minion Life support gem

Run 1- BM kills Hillock in 20.95 seconds
Run 2- BM kills Hillock in 22.32 seconds
Run 3- BM kills Hillock in 21.25 seconds

FINDING: Minion Life support gem increases the damage done by UF.

Confirmed, guide updated

Combo 2: Raise Spectre + Minion Life + Increased Burning Damage

Run 1- BM kills Hillock in 14.00 seconds
Run 2- BM kills Hillock in 14.90 seconds
Run 3- BM kills Hillock in 14.63 seconds

FINDING: Increased Burning Damage support increases the damage of UF

In line with the guide, additional evidence.

Combo 3: Raise Spectre + Minion Damage

Run 1- BM kills Hillock in 25.95 seconds
Run 2- BM kills Hillock in 26.92 seconds
Run 3- BM kills Hillock in 26.78 seconds

FINDING: Increased Minion Damage support does not materially affect UF damage

In line with the guide, additional evidence.

Combo 4: Raise Spectre + Remote Mine

Run 1- NA (Hillock kills BM in 22.35 seconds)
Run 2- BM kills Hillock in 26.20 seconds
Run 3- BM kills Hillock in 26.55 seconds

FINDING: Remote Mine support does not materially affect UF damage.

Additional information, added to the guide under DON'T

Didn't have time to test out a few other scenarios, for example using 2 BMs with different support gem combos (expected finding: degen damage should not stack based on game mechanics). Maybe tomorrow if I have time.
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Suicigobo wrote:
The to do list!
Gem testing

1. Concentrated effect: Test to verify it DOES NOT increase the damage but DOES lower the aura of the burning miscreations.

THAT IS CORRECT, CONC EFFECT DOES NOT INCREASE THE DAMAGE OF AOE DOTS BUT DOES DECREASE THE AOE--http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Concentrated_Effect

2. Item rarity: test to verify that it DOES NOT work on burning miscreations

CORRECT, DOT KILLS DO NOT GET BONUS FROM RARITY SKILL GEM--http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/13796/page/4#p473433

3. Item quantity: test to very that it DOES NOT work on burning miscreations

CORRECT, SAME AS RARITY--http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/13795/page/2#p434121

4. Life leech: it DOES NOT work on the aura but DOES work on the melee attack. Question: does it significantly increase the survivability

CORRECT, DOES NOT WORK ON THE AOE DEGEN SINCE LIFE LEECH WORKS ON HIT AND DEGEN DOES NOT HIT. WILL WORK WITH THE MELEE ATTACK SINCE THAT DOES HIT. http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Burning

5. Increased chance to ignite: test to verify that it DOES NOT work on burning miscreations

CHANCE TO IGNITE OCCURS ON HIT, DEGEN DOES NOT HIT.
I used to run Burning Miscreations for a long time and really loved it. I changed to Fire Sentinels just so I could use IIQ and IIR gems. The kill speed is the same anyway.

I play solo and self found only.

I recommend you spec out of dual curse, with the killspeed you often don't have time to cast both curses.

I use my zombies as tanks (17,3K health), skeletons as bait and the real dmg comes from the Flame Sentinels. I just hide behind my army (27 summons) and cast no spells other than Summon Skeletons and Enfeeble.. I run easily through maps solo and spend most of the time there picking up loot or opening chests while the summons do all the work.

This is my setup :

3.3 RF Trickster SSF HC guide :

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2147256
is there a trick to make them cast unrighteous fire ASAP?
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garliccannon wrote:
is there a trick to make them cast unrighteous fire ASAP?

spam frost wall, BMs will get annoyed and will cast UF faster
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Hi

Do 2 burned miscreation's unrighteous fire stack?
How many BM do u usually get?
Is more than one BM useful? other than backing up.
Thank you
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Rusherboy wrote:
I used to run Burning Miscreations for a long time and really loved it. I changed to Fire Sentinels just so I could use IIQ and IIR gems. The kill speed is the same anyway.


I see you have skelly totem with chaos dmg, wont ur fire mobs far more out dps the skellies?

Just as I always wonder, why not link skelly totem with IIR IIC and faster attack(or multi) and Culling. with more than 10 skellies surrounding bosses/rares/unique mobs, wont it be good to have culling with IIR IIC?
Do culling works with minions? Do culling works with IIR IIC?

Thank you.
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garliccannon wrote:
is there a trick to make them cast unrighteous fire ASAP?


As stated: make a barrier of frost wall's between the BM and the enemies.
In addition it often work to dash back while using your quicksilver flask.

Suicigoba
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kongyuyu wrote:
Hi

Do 2 burned miscreation's unrighteous fire stack?
How many BM do u usually get?
Is more than one BM useful? other than backing up.
Thank you


Hello,

1. Unrighteous fire does not stack
2. I get 3 (I use bones of Ullr boots). The only reason is backing up in case of BM's dying. I kill so fast i do not really see a reason to get another spectre to improve my firepower. My main focus is to ensure i do not run out of steam by BM's dying.

Suicigoba

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