Petrov's Elemental Bow Ranger Build(s) (0.10)

It isn't about the conversation so much as the field testing. I didn't mean to get so defensive, but I am trying to offer some help. And I completely respect opposition, but I do want that opposition to have some proof with its counterpoints.


I guess we can agree to disagree on this one.

Apologies again if I sounded like my 5L is required.



Dragon

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Dragon585 wrote:

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Sorry, but 220% is my game. It is somehow very amusing the amount of "variation" and suggestions in this thread. Previously was Eredia's irongrip.

What amuses ME, is that you are amused by other people's "variations" while you yourself sit back and provide incorrect data to support your claims.

utterly sorry if my mild intelligence has indeed killed your mere interest in comparing dps this game. Your suggestions definitely flow superb with the not so amusing aspect of the game.

Is there any way to calculate dps of bows? I'm getting to a stage when I will need to get some good bows but having difficulty calculate on paper which one is better.

Don't want but bows which will be useless for me.

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apatia77 wrote:

Is there any way to calculate dps of bows? I'm getting to a stage when I will need to get some good bows but having difficulty calculate on paper which one is better.

Don't want but bows which will be useless for me.

I believe it depends on your spec. If you are using Lightning Arrow and how many of which nodes you took. Example Elemental damage, Lightning damage, physical damage and projectile damage.
For example if you are spec into heavy lightning damage nodes, you may want a bow with more lightning damage. In this situation, a bow with 90 Lightning damage may scale better than a bow with 45 Fire + 45 Ice damage.
Just remember your nodes and that LA 50% is lightning.

I have come up with this calculation (which I am also surprised with the result) and some personal experienced comments. Please be gentle with me if I'm wrong ^^



Ligntning Arrow DPS setup Calculation

Using a Lv 61 character with updated Lv 16 Gems.

Specifics


Set Up

LA > LMP > LoH
DPS = 58.1 (Bow) x 4 (LA) x 300% (LMP) = 697 DPS
Mana/HP Cost = 15 (LA) x 150% (LMP) x 150% (LoH) = 33.75 HP/Mana
Life Gain = 36HP (LoH) x 3 (LMP) = 108 HP (HP Excess = 74.25 HP)

Comment: Higher damage. Clears from front row to back. Good when killing tougher mobs, may overkill on weaker mobs. Faster mob kill = less damage to self. Chance to miss one or two arrows. Higher Damage provided if all 3 arrows hits. When clearing a pack of mobs, you clear systematically.


LA > Chain > LoH
DPS = 58.1 (Bow) x 4 (LA) x 240% (Chain) = 557.76 DPS
Mana/HP Cost = 15 (LA) x 200% (Chain) x 150% (LoH) = 45 HP/Mana
Life Gain = 36HP (LoH) x 3 (Chain) = 108 HP (HP Excess = 63 HP)

Comment: About 20% less damage from LMP Set. Clear all mobs at about same time. Good when your damage is higher or killing weaker mobs. Superb farming skill. Once hit, all 3 hits provided there's more than one mob. Consistent dps. When clearing a pack of mobs with a boss in it, if you target boss, chances is that the 3rd chain hit will come back to boss resulting more damage to boss compared to LMP set.


LA > LMP > Chain > LoH
DPS = 58.1 (Bow) x 4 (LA) x 300% (LMP) x 240% (Chain) = 1673.28 DPS
Mana/HP Cost = 15 (LA) x 150% (LMP)x 200% (Chain) x 150% (LoH) = 67.5 HP/Mana
Life Gsin = 36 HP (LoH) x 3 (LMP) x 3 (Chain) = 324 HP (HP Excess = 256.5HP)

Comment: What else to say. Best of both worlds. Make sure you have a good single target skill when there is less than 3 mobs, unless you can afford to overkill and overspend.

End of the day, there's pros and cons to either set and depends on your gears quality and situation you are in. Whether your dps is high enough or just barely there. Personally, I like both LMP and Chain. ^^

Cheers.

If we had more links I would totally choose to link chain with lmp. But in a standard 5L that leaves either faster attacks, or wep ele dmg out of the link and I still just dont see it being worth it. To each his own. Great breakdown btw. Wish I was as good as you are at that :P

Guys, can someone tell me about pros and cons of physical and elemental rangers?
There are two similar builds:
Petrov's Elemental Bow Ranger "tanker + shock stacking + inner force" Build
and
MartinCreek's immortal speed ranger build v1.3 (Unwavering Stance is optional)
that will be later
MartinCreek's immortal speed ranger build v1.5 (Unwavering Stance is optional)
I haven't much experience in PoE, so need help to decide.

how about this build?

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgIBAdEEswguDq0UTRR1FSAZjhm0G6on7SlPKaUqTSzpMgkyfjKJMtE1kjboOlI64TwtPydFR0bXSn1M_03jTshVxlYEVvpX4livWz1dxl-qYVJjp2egZ71sFmz2bqpyqXPhdEF35XgNerh82YKbguSD24Zgh3aI8Y9GkBGbjZuhn8uiAKJAplenCKlurFmsqq6Tr2yv67UEtfK3PriTxKLE9sWKxq7K085xz2XQR9DQ037UFd0N3Ubfv-Qi52PqYuw47YPuDu5v8B_yRfT494j6sfxL_E78xf4K_o8=

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Dragon585 wrote:

I don't have any numbers to back it up, but the theory is never missing > the small chance to crit. Bows in general have very low crit chance and most ele builds do not have the spare points to buff this. Also at level 54 you cannot really get an idea of what your hit chance will be in endgame. Watch your next few levels. You will start to see your hit chance drop because at the later levels you are pumping your highway points into str and not dex.

It's too bad you all have Resolute Technique, or else I'd ask you what your chance to hit is. Do you have a guess what it is? I'm 54 with 246 dex (some from gear) and my chance to hit is 86%. If yours without RT is like 60%, then that would be very bad.

Use an Orb of Regret and let me know. ;)

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