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Nitroximus wrote:
Is the "Old Open Beta Build" still a viable build? I'm level 40 and don't really want to reroll again.
its ok, just get more accuracy from gear instead
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Posted byxiaozozo#2448on Feb 11, 2013, 6:37:30 AM
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Eredia wrote:
It seems like the FoTM among rangers is to skip the center WED and Iron Grip and take the path along the south border of the passive tree. I guess this was made popular by Nugiyen due to it's superior survivability, especially when going into the Marauder start.
However I'm playing on scrubcore, since I wanted to get familiar with the game before dying several times in the hardcore league. I'm currently specced like this, which is just a small variation of the same old cookie cutter builds. Most notably I went for Inner Force, which I believe is overlooked by way too many rangers that run the usual Grace, Anger & Wrath aura combo. The DPS increase from it is big.
Anyway, would anyone care to take a look at my tree to see if I can make any small improvements? This is no theoretical tree, but rather how I'm actually specced right now.
http://tinyurl.com/erediaranger3
Something to note is that I currently have 3x 6% all resist nodes, which I need to max out all my elemental resists at 80%. With better gear those will be placed into more health and/or health regen.
no idea why inner force, and also no idea why iron grip (unless you have a deck'ed out phy bow) other than that, i think ur build lacks hp overall. just my opinion, cheesr :)
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Posted byxiaozozo#2448on Feb 11, 2013, 6:41:29 AM
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Thanks MrPetrov!
Your builds and comments are greatly appreciated. Just starting my ranger again since OB, been dabbling with Shadows and Temps. Time to get back to the best class.. :D
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Posted byCyclopsSlayer#2010on Feb 11, 2013, 7:27:53 AM
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xiaozozo wrote:
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Eredia wrote:
It seems like the FoTM among rangers is to skip the center WED and Iron Grip and take the path along the south border of the passive tree. I guess this was made popular by Nugiyen due to it's superior survivability, especially when going into the Marauder start.
However I'm playing on scrubcore, since I wanted to get familiar with the game before dying several times in the hardcore league. I'm currently specced like this, which is just a small variation of the same old cookie cutter builds. Most notably I went for Inner Force, which I believe is overlooked by way too many rangers that run the usual Grace, Anger & Wrath aura combo. The DPS increase from it is big.
Anyway, would anyone care to take a look at my tree to see if I can make any small improvements? This is no theoretical tree, but rather how I'm actually specced right now.
http://tinyurl.com/erediaranger3
Something to note is that I currently have 3x 6% all resist nodes, which I need to max out all my elemental resists at 80%. With better gear those will be placed into more health and/or health regen.
no idea why inner force, and also no idea why iron grip (unless you have a deck'ed out phy bow) other than that, i think ur build lacks hp overall. just my opinion, cheesr :)
Actually Inner Force and the 2 points leading up to it boosts my tooltip dps of Elemental Hit by over 600dps in total with lvl 18 Anger and Wrath which is kind of huge, and not to mention the extra defence from Grace. As I said, people don't seem to understand how powerful these points are.
Iron Grip just sit there on the path I'm taking, so figured why not for 1 point.
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Last edited by Eredia#7636 on Feb 11, 2013, 7:57:05 AM
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Posted byEredia#7636on Feb 11, 2013, 7:34:52 AM
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Eredia wrote:
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xiaozozo wrote:
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Eredia wrote:
It seems like the FoTM among rangers is to skip the center WED and Iron Grip and take the path along the south border of the passive tree. I guess this was made popular by Nugiyen due to it's superior survivability, especially when going into the Marauder start.
However I'm playing on scrubcore, since I wanted to get familiar with the game before dying several times in the hardcore league. I'm currently specced like this, which is just a small variation of the same old cookie cutter builds. Most notably I went for Inner Force, which I believe is overlooked by way too many rangers that run the usual Grace, Anger & Wrath aura combo. The DPS increase from it is big.
Anyway, would anyone care to take a look at my tree to see if I can make any small improvements? This is no theoretical tree, but rather how I'm actually specced right now.
http://tinyurl.com/erediaranger3
Something to note is that I currently have 3x 6% all resist nodes, which I need to max out all my elemental resists at 80%. With better gear those will be placed into more health and/or health regen.
no idea why inner force, and also no idea why iron grip (unless you have a deck'ed out phy bow) other than that, i think ur build lacks hp overall. just my opinion, cheesr :)
Actually Inner Force and the 2 points leading up to it boosts my tooltip dps of Elemental Hit by over 600dps in total with lvl 18 Anger and Wrath which is kind of huge, and not to mention the extra defence from Grace. As I said, people don't seem to understand how powerful these points are.
Iron Grip just sit there on the path I'm taking, so figured why not for 1 point.
no problem at all, but that's for scrubcore like you said. Irongrip on the way doesnt sound logical to me, because by all means you are limiting yourself to gear > High phy bow. If you can afford it, why not? But if you cant, it doesnt worth the point does it?
On top of that, inner force and iron grip doesnt quite roll together. Inner force > elemental dps, iron grip > physical dps. Im afraid you will have to run Hatred instead. Sure for more dps, but dont you think other nodes would be better? Sorry i cant give an alternative to your passive tree, these are just some of the points I have in mind.
Cheers mate.
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Posted byxiaozozo#2448on Feb 11, 2013, 9:02:50 AM
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Hi everyone,
Forgive me if this question has been asked already, but I was wondering why so many of the elemental oriented builds don't take advantage of the crit chance/dmg nodes with bows? Why do so many people (Petrov incl) go for the Resolute technique? Is there some mechanic about how crit works that has to do with physical damage that I'm missing?
Thanks a lot
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Posted byFearTheHammer#1433on Feb 11, 2013, 9:26:51 AM
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Hey guys,
Regarding Blood Magic: DEFINITELY RUSH IT! It made a world of difference from my mana ranger (some monsters you simply can't out-potion). But you'll need LOH gem & LOH gear to make it work. After your gem is lvl 5 or so, you'll have no problems topping up thanks to AOE (from LA and LMP) and can start getting Life Leech gear for your single target.
As for the build, between BM and Resolute, I took the detour to Iron Grip. Yes this is 5 extra points, but I also got direct access to 2 Savants (saving 3 wasted points), +30 str notable, huge HP cluster, and +30% elemental dmg nodes near it. This replaced the cluster of nodes near Shadow Start (which I think wasted too many points for small IAS and ele dmg).
What are your thoughts on this? Lately I've been reading through a lot of posts and I'm starting to regret getting Iron Grip because of low phys base. Will cost me about 15 respec points to fix... One extremely noob question for anyone to answer: LA converts 50% phys dmg to lightning, so why is it not important to have some phys dmg as well?
Thanks,
IGN: FacebreakerVoid Last edited by iamjim#1561 on Feb 11, 2013, 10:00:42 AM
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Posted byiamjim#1561on Feb 11, 2013, 9:38:26 AM
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xiaozozo wrote:
no problem at all, but that's for scrubcore like you said. Irongrip on the way doesnt sound logical to me, because by all means you are limiting yourself to gear > High phy bow. If you can afford it, why not? But if you cant, it doesnt worth the point does it?
On top of that, inner force and iron grip doesnt quite roll together. Inner force > elemental dps, iron grip > physical dps. Im afraid you will have to run Hatred instead. Sure for more dps, but dont you think other nodes would be better? Sorry i cant give an alternative to your passive tree, these are just some of the points I have in mind.
Cheers mate.
Now I don't understand what you mean by me limiting myself by taking Iron Grip, and having to run Hatred. All I'm doing is spending 1 extra passive point to boost my physical damage, even if by just a small amount by taking it. With the build I'm using I would go past there anyway to get down to Blood Magic and continue up in the tree in the other direction anyway.
Now one could argue that I could spend that 1 point into getting 8% more HP instead, which could be a valid argument, but could you explain what you mean by this limitation you speak of? Because the way I see it, the passive have no drawbacks at all, apart from me having maybe 80 HP less.
IGN: @eredia
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Posted byEredia#7636on Feb 11, 2013, 10:20:52 AM
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iamjim wrote:
What are your thoughts on this? Lately I've been reading through a lot of posts and I'm starting to regret getting Iron Grip because of low phys base. Will cost me about 15 respec points to fix... One extremely noob question for anyone to answer: LA converts 50% phys dmg to lightning, so why is it not important to have some phys dmg as well?
Thanks,
The way I see it, it's never bad to get phys damage, just that if you run a cookie cutter elemental build with a fast weapon you will scale a lot better with flat elemental damage over physical if you have it at a 1:1 ratio. But don't fall for the trap of thinking phys damage is totally useless.
So don't say no to it, just don't prioritize it.
IGN: @eredia
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Posted byEredia#7636on Feb 11, 2013, 10:23:20 AM
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FearTheHammer wrote:
Hi everyone,
Forgive me if this question has been asked already, but I was wondering why so many of the elemental oriented builds don't take advantage of the crit chance/dmg nodes with bows? Why do so many people (Petrov incl) go for the Resolute technique? Is there some mechanic about how crit works that has to do with physical damage that I'm missing?
Thanks a lot
Its a simple matter of how much you have to invest passive skill point and dex/accuracy wise. I spend ONE point on RT and I dont need to spend any points on more dex, accuracy or crit for that matter. My dps will be 100% and it did not cost hardly anything to achieve. IF Diamond Flasks were in game it might be a different situation.
The item is yours when it is in your bag. Last edited by Ushela#2383 on Feb 11, 2013, 10:25:59 AM
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Posted byUshela#2383on Feb 11, 2013, 10:25:18 AM
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