Looting -- The official thread for discussing the loot system. Updated 18th March, 2013.

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Jackel6672 wrote:

Hardcore league feeds default.
You say casual, I say money pit of players wanting a d2 successor.
You asked me to.

I don't think someone who prefers HC will resign themselves to Default and stay there, integrating.
Yeah, that's why we're all here probably, and a pretty big chunk of us are declaring a problem with FFA loot.
I did?

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wisdorin wrote:

so dont feed the sl4y3r

;P

He was revealing new stuff for a few posts there. He skipped my last questions. :/ I think those coulda been useful.

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SL4Y3R wrote:

Planet: it is because it BREAKS the entire meta game. Read devs, wishes of what they want the game to be, which has already been proven.

I will try to go back some pages and find a post that someone else wrote that explains the idea behind it.

Yep read it, that's why I won't be spending a single penny on this game. Nor will I be playing it any more the very instant GREEN solo play from start to 'end of content' becomes impossible.

My hundred bucks can sit safely in my pocket and go to a saner outfit. Shame though, because outside of this insanity, this game is quite a good game and fun to play.

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But yeah 254 pages, the devs have made clear their stand, it's pretty well pointless and I, for one, will make this my last post on this thread.

The game will ALWAYS be able to be played solo.

That was what Chris stated in that quote. This game is not meant to be WoW Raid mechanics. Where healers, and large groups are a MUST.

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Planetsurvival wrote:

Let me speak as customer on this game:
If i were to ever spend cash on this game, its for these reasons:

A: It doesnt annoy me (aka Loot stealing, aka FFA loot)
B: A healthy community of different players with differnt styles being welcome.

Now Enforced Cutthroat FFA loot rules is directly against both of these points.
It breeds Elitism, and alienates a big potential consumer group.

Thats pretty much it. Most players don't stick to a game if they have a terrible early experience. Face it, there are TONS of game out there and only 24 hours in a day. There are a lot of quality FTP games out there now and a game that has annoying mechanics is not one that people will open their wallet for.

I don't expect many new players to "stick it out" in public parties for the FFA loot system to "grow" on them.

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SL4Y3R wrote:

The game will ALWAYS be able to be played solo.

That was what Chris stated in that quote. This game is not meant to be WoW Raid mechanics. Where healers, and large groups are a MUST.

Ok lets consider the demographic scenario we have for PoE.
We have many people with gametime with instanced loot.
We have this new game called Path of exile.
Now what will happen when many of these GREENS, try a public party?

*uniqe drops for first time!*
GREEN is playing a ranged character.
GREEN sees 5 second timer counting down!
GREEN rushes in to pick it up, gets killed because of the adds from a boss.
GREEN logs off the game and rages and wont spend money to keep it afloat.
GREEN solos alot, GREEN gets bored, GREEN moves to another game.

Who loses what here? Thats right! GGG looses income!
All because refusal to create SC&HC GREEN Infinity loot timer leagues.

I want a 6L.

I spend 100 fusings to get one.

I dont get one.

I demand that for 100 fusings I should be able to get one. If I don't, I'm taking my money elsewhere.

See. GGG just lost money on that one too.....

(This has actually already happened too btw)

this is obvious trolling man...

YOu dont want to accept the opinions of the others and you want to force them to argue with you...

dont compare apple with melons...

but yeah you trolled me again im definitly out of this discussion now ;P

gg

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SL4Y3R wrote:

I want a 6L.

I spend 100 fusings to get one.

I dont get one.

I demand that for 100 fusings I should be able to get one. If I don't, I'm taking my money elsewhere.

See. GGG just lost money on that one too.....

(This has actually already happened too btw)

Yet your post has nothing to do with FFA loot issues, or even remotely shedding light on how to solve it.

Were talking about basic choices of gametype, theres HC league for those that prefer that.
Now why cant there be Infinity Loot timer leagues?

I have already made a post on how to solve it.

Penalize it.

My post before was showing the relevancy that GGG will lose money from people quitting for LOTS of different reasons. Not just this one. Such is the fact of making, well, anything.

You can't please everyone, and if you try, you might just end up with something no one wants.

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SL4Y3R wrote:

I want a 6L.

I blah blah.

Blah blah blah.

Need to reach with a slippery slope argument.

See. GGG just lost money on that one niche issue, they should now ignore the largest single concern raised by the largest chunk of player because all issues are equal.....

(This has actually already happened too btw, that means it's important as everything that happens ever is important)

I like your style and agree.