[1.1.1] Dual Dagger CI. Restored for 1.1 and viable even after Vaal Pact nerf.

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Xavyer wrote:


P.S. I am not your son nor your friend, pls do not refer to me in such a way.



P.S that is just slang , calm down.
Last edited by Malamojapruskisatelitu#2410 on Jul 8, 2013, 6:53:34 PM
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Malamojapruskisatelitu wrote:

To me efficiently is running maps with eyes closed , not worrying about deaths or hard engages cause you've got to the point of facerolling. Doing maps with music in background and "watching tv" . That is how i like it cause i spend less of my self trying hard, which is most important thing when talking about farming maps ( the less you spend your self psychologically less tired you get and faster you progress) ... With my 2H slam marauder it takes me 2-10 min per map (66-69) with my lvl 69 burning discharger in which i invested 2.5 ex on staff i do maps from 5-15 mins (66-69 maps),and only reason that it takes me so long is elemental resist rares and bosses with huge hp pool.. but few more lvls and that will be ancient history as I transit to CI. With my former LA ranger it took me somewhere from 2-5 min per map.


Could you link a 2-3 min 69 lvl map video?
Currency: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/400203
For new comers: Ranger guide and 10 builds
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/69224/page/1
To crit or not to crit: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/466825/page/2
That's not map efficency ur talking about, it's pure facerolling you want which i don't think ull ever get to with a offensive build like this one, atleast not without making some smaller changes to it yourself.


Then it's to another issue, melee builds atm are weaker in terms of damage / Survivability. If you can't balance the two out its gonna be tough which is atm why ranged builds are slightly sturdier and faster.
Let's talk about solo ranges and facerolling.

lvl 70 Coves Map. (Boss is Kraityn with Flicker Strike)
Skeletons
Vulnerability
Boss deal 30% more damage and attack 25% faster
Two Bosses.

4 mins 19 seconds
www.youtube.com/watch?v=81kSLTx2elQ

Enjoy.


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starmanwarz wrote:
I hit level 80 today and I have to say that this build is very fun to play but it is almost impossible for me to play on level 71+ maps. Is is extremely dangerous. Sometimes I even struggle with lower level maps as well,seems like 3700 ES is not enough. My gear is not the best but it is decent I think. Well I think it may be time to roll another char, it's hard to level with so many deaths :(


I can only imagine this happends because of your daggers that are not pure physical and have low base crit.
I filmed a video for you.
Lvl 71 Colonade Map with +30% monster damage.
I removed my 6th gem (multistrike) making my chest essentialy 5L
I disabled Discipline aura making my chest 800-233=567 ES.
So this video is in 567ES 5L chest that can be bought for 1.5-2 EX
I have 3K es pool.
Map took 6 minutes.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=HK4k-Bq17NY
Oh and i didn't curse Brutus :)
Last edited by Xavyer#5154 on Jul 9, 2013, 9:06:34 AM
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Malamojapruskisatelitu wrote:
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starmanwarz wrote:
I hit level 80 today and I have to say that this build is very fun to play but it is almost impossible for me to play on level 71+ maps. Is is extremely dangerous. Sometimes I even struggle with lower level maps as well,seems like 3700 ES is not enough. My gear is not the best but it is decent I think. Well I think it may be time to roll another char, it's hard to level with so many deaths :( END QUOTE








Question : how much crit chance you have and why don't you buy eye of chayula amulet which gives you stun immunity which again saves you 7 points in tree to take more points to crit chance and multiplier. Not to mention that this build is unplayable on higher lvls without stun immunity.

You need to min max it bro , every aspect of it to run things more smoothly.

Stay on course when you've got so far.


My crit is 42 and 44. i don't really like chayula, I need more stats on amulet plus I think that it is not available in Anarchy?
IGN: SoulCrasher_


What did you expected with such low critical strike chance (42-44%)? Only 1/3 of your hits deal significant damage, so if you got a bit of bad luck, your are as good as dead. No matter, how many damage you deal when you crit, if you have so low chance to do it, you wont survive.

You should have critical strike chance as high as 91%, or, at least, be close to it.
IGN: MortalKombat
Molten Strike build guide: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1346504

There is no knowledge
That is not power
42% and 44% crit seems to be strange.
Base crit chance of a dagger 6.8 +350% crit chance from power charges = 30.6 crit chance already.
May be 42% and 44% is in town?

Need to have base 9.0 crit chance on dagger or close to that, then +350% from power charges and +350% from notable passives = 72% crit chance + 9% flat crit chance from curse = 81% crit chance.

But anyway need to cap it, BUT at the same time as HIT chance. If you have 95% crit chance and 60% hit chance, then your real crit chance is 57%. Because the difference between damage on crit and damage on hit we can say that hit = miss.
80% crit chance + 80% hit chance >> 95% crit chance and 65% hit chance.
Currency: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/400203
For new comers: Ranger guide and 10 builds
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/69224/page/1
To crit or not to crit: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/466825/page/2
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volanchik wrote:
42% and 44% crit seems to be strange.
Base crit chance of a dagger 6.8 +350% crit chance from power charges = 30.6 crit chance already.
May be 42% and 44% is in town?

Need to have base 9.0 crit chance on dagger or close to that, then +350% from power charges and +350% from notable passives = 72% crit chance + 9% flat crit chance from curse = 81% crit chance.

But anyway need to cap it, BUT at the same time as HIT chance. If you have 95% crit chance and 60% hit chance, then your real crit chance is 57%. Because the difference between damage on crit and damage on hit we can say that hit = miss.
80% crit chance + 80% hit chance >> 95% crit chance and 65% hit chance.


Yeah, these numbers are in town (42+44)

I have been looking for new high phys crit daggers for anarchy every single day but there are none available.
IGN: SoulCrasher_
Well, new league, less items dropped yet.

You need to compensate low crit chance with high hit chance (take some accuracy nodes and extra flat accuracy on gear, before you get your daggers).
But since phys damage is affix and crit chance is suffix you can try to waste 200+ alts to craft +120% phys damage and +25% crit chance. And hope to get 3-rd good stat with Regal, but is a roulette.

Again, since damage on crit 10 times more then damage on hit, and whole build is made on crits, then it is better to crit more often with low damage then hit more often with high phys damage.
Currency: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/400203
For new comers: Ranger guide and 10 builds
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/69224/page/1
To crit or not to crit: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/466825/page/2
Last edited by volanchik#0173 on Jul 9, 2013, 11:41:29 AM
Nice farming vids .. i wonder why i cant farm as fast as you... oh w8 i don't have so much dmg since i miss some points and don't have Q melee splash , don't have Q DS , only Q i have is 12Q mpd. My lvl 17 pcoc gives about 46 % chance to give charge on crit and my crit chance is 71% with 5 Power charges.
So please by removing one gem you proved nothing ... you still have so much more aoe and dps than most of us...
And please don't say "hey i removed gem from my 6 l to make it 5 l and i don't use ES aura" while doing so on easiest map of them all... its easier than some 66. Hell pietry temple lvl 3 is harder than that 71 map... farming zombies and fotys is a joke they hit so slow that you could kill them unarmed prob with that 800% pd gloves :D

And funniest thing is, that even with all your gems and gear you would die in 70 coves with 3000 ES.
But sure thing u picked lvl 71 bunny map to prove a point how strong you are with 3000 ES and 5l...

Ur taking advantage of situation to prove your point how this build is strong and viable and only thing you did is remove one fucking gem, drooped on 3000ES and killed bunch of zombies and boss that cant hit you fast enough to kill you... while ur saying that it is strong and viable with mediocre gear ... / BULLSHIT

And you will never prove a point by making 5 min vids about farming some shitty map. Because everyone can make 5 min vid of how they rape something...
Only thing that matters is what is happening through whole day / week of gameplay....
Today i died 7 times from lvl 73 to 74... 3 times by dysinc once by lag and 3 times by 6 armed range monsters in piety temple, scattered allover the place...

This build is fun and heavy, and my original post was so true that it rings through time and space.. Its so true that if Jesus was real he would come down from heavens and testify to that.

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