[1.0.1b] Summoner Guide / Minion Guide

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Allnamestaken wrote:

Can instant flasks really do much good? I mean, its 40-60% from 400 health...Not that much.

you should have dps zombies + at least 1 spectre as burned miscreation -> plenty of flask charges
2-3 flask 50%+ animation, q20, spam as needed
if you have iron reflexes you can pick up 2x15% +hp from flask passive

Seething animation flasks is a direct counter to burst. You don't just have one flask charge you have several(I carry 3 of these types of flasks). On top of all that regen and flask spamming only the strongest burst damage moves in the game can instantly kill your minions.

I have a really conventional summoner build (started making him when I knew nothing of the game, so he's pretty badly specced). Never went anywhere from templar/witch areas. Thinking of respecking once 1.0 hits. I need to get myself some instant minion flasks then. How many exalts will it take to alt them, I wonder.

Health armor and IR seems to be working well for many, plus BMs are my favourite spectres (with them good armor is a must), its sad that mf gems don't work with them though.

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Allnamestaken wrote:

I have a really conventional summoner build (started making him when I knew nothing of the game, so he's pretty badly specced). Never went anywhere from templar/witch areas. Thinking of respecking once 1.0 hits. I need to get myself some instant minion flasks then. How many exalts will it take to alt them, I wonder.

Health armor and IR seems to be working well for many, plus BMs are my favourite spectres (with them good armor is a must), its sad that mf gems don't work with them though.

well your passives dont rly matter tbh, if you're not CI seething animation flasks are a no-brainer. it will take some time to craft them, check trade channel too.

I used to have IR with minion life nodes only + 3x BM-s and tank zombies. it's ok but really fucking boring, so I respecced. Dropped IR and picked up all minion dmg nodes + necro aegis as well. Now I have 1x BM 2x tentacle + 9 high dps zombies. It's much better, but yes I have no armor nor block, just have to play a bit carefully that's all. Could use 2 granites if I wanted to but cba.

That is the beauty of the summoner. So many viable ways to mix and match spectre and passive builds. You can really tailor your character to your own play style.

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Lacceh wrote:

it will take some time to craft them

Got this one on the very first alt, lol



So much for "how many exalts".


I do think I need some armor, getting annoying to die.

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I do think I need some armor, getting annoying to die.

This was why I thought IR was a good idea on summoners. Just add grace and some armor or evasion nodes with evasion gear and it will mostly counter the physical damage that comes from leap slammers, chargers, flicker strikers.

The thing is...recently bought 2 andvarius(es). Now my resists are pretty low, even aurumvorax does't save me. And I was used to having max resists...thinking of dropping necro aegis, wonder how much it will affect minion life expectancy. Maybe dropping MI will counteract it. Using daresso's courage, so its 15-18 resists + extra passive point worth of damage to zombies (mostly, as I really don't know which spectre's are casters, and which actually do physical damage).

Drop necro aegis I really don't see the point of this node unless a really good unique shield comes out.(like +50% added fire damage to melee or something similiar)

Zombie base res at level 20: fire 32% cold 64% lightning 32%
Zombie at level 22(+2 helm): ??? unsure how much res scales if at all

Grasp(30% res) + Purity (4max res and 27%)

This leaves you with

(79% all res) for your grasp summoned zombies
(59% fire 79%cold 59% lightning) for your regular zombies

necroaegis could be effective if u got a very high chaos res shield but its not needed imo.

also feel like MI is only good vs hard bosses that can own your minions very quickly other wise the explosion is mostly wasted when you can generate much higher dps by having them just attack things.

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Am speaking from the perspective of summoner's end game.

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Allnamestaken wrote:

The thing is...recently bought 2 andvarius(es). Now my resists are pretty low, even aurumvorax does't save me. And I was used to having max resists...thinking of dropping necro aegis, wonder how much it will affect minion life expectancy. Maybe dropping MI will counteract it. Using daresso's courage, so its 15-18 resists + extra passive point worth of damage to zombies (mostly, as I really don't know which spectre's are casters, and which actually do physical damage).

hm well I never was into MF-ing and I play only HC, but I think you should probably drop MI and focus on just keeping minions alive.
Daresso's is not that good imo, the dmg is meh, and resists are too low. I think the ultimate
shield would be a high armor triple res tower shield, or a high armor archon.(chaos dmg is still rare, so in my opinion it'd be just a bonus)
Personally I use aegis because I wanna do temple piety and such from time to time(she dies in about 10 sec, I don't lose any minions, I have to use tricorne and 2x topaz flasks for myself tho). We don't know much about spectre resists(I assume it's same as their base resists like when you mouse over and it says 'resist x' etc) so aegis if you want their resists high. For zombies it's not a must but still helps especially for regular(non-montregul) ones, for example I don't need minion resi gem for them anymore, so more dps. For spectres it's purity+minion resi gem+shield, so it's safe to say they reach 79 res with aura(I also have Leadership btw and a lot of qual gems for good radius).
And speaking of keeping minions alive, I use life leech gem for both zombies and spectres, I can recommend that too.

gl