BUILD OUT OF COMMISSION....NO LONGER VIABLE DUE TO IDIOTIC CHANGE TO IRON REFLEXES

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Edzilla wrote:

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Yagamai wrote:

1. Life is a buffer, you need less and less the more armour you have. Armour + Evasion + Health + Block = Effective Life
2. Irongrip is useless in an full elemental build, you will get maybe a 0.5% dps boost as you will be using a 1.55 bow with no phys mods.
3. Get vaal pact if you want to suicide. You got 0 phys damage so no life leech, your main defense are pots ( flask bonus passives + high armour = great sustain )
4. You need Armour + Evasion, because you will be getting Armour + Evasion gear which are alot better than pure evasion or pure armour nodes.
5. You took 8 points for 12% life 48% evasion instead of 6 points for 64% evasion + 64% armour?
NO THANKS.

I said "Generally speaking." Meaning, in a general state, that applies to everything, not just your build. Iron grip, vaal pack, and 8/8/12(now 6/6/10) life nodes are the only reason to even go middle is what I was trying to say.

Armor and evasion nodes don't apply when using Iron Reflexes.... It only takes one and applies it. Several quotes from Devs, including Chris, has stated this... For the second now lol. So your 64/64 is just... 64 pal.

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Yagamai wrote:

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Edzilla wrote:

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Yagamai wrote:

1. Life is a buffer, you need less and less the more armour you have. Armour + Evasion + Health + Block = Effective Life
2. Irongrip is useless in an full elemental build, you will get maybe a 0.5% dps boost as you will be using a 1.55 bow with no phys mods.
3. Get vaal pact if you want to suicide. You got 0 phys damage so no life leech, your main defense are pots ( flask bonus passives + high armour = great sustain )
4. You need Armour + Evasion, because you will be getting Armour + Evasion gear which are alot better than pure evasion or pure armour nodes.
5. You took 8 points for 12% life 48% evasion instead of 6 points for 64% evasion + 64% armour?
NO THANKS.

I said "Generally speaking." Meaning, in a general state, that applies to everything, not just your build. Iron grip, vaal pack, and 8/8/12(now 6/6/10) life nodes are the only reason to even go middle is what I was trying to say.

Armor and evasion nodes don't apply when using Iron Reflexes.... It only takes one and applies it. Several quotes from Devs, including Chris, has stated this... For the second now lol. So your 64/64 is just... 64 pal.

If I get an armour with 1000 evasion 1000 armour:
1000 * 1.64 = 1640
1000 * 1.64 = 1640
= 3280 total

If no armour bonus then its:
1000 * 1 = 1000
1000 * 1.64 = 1640
= 2640

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aristona37 wrote:

I'm currently level 46 with this build. I liked it but I seem to be wasting so much HP when using Frenzy. It takes like 50HP each hit and even by using flasks, my hp keeps going down.

What do you think about Vaal Pact? We only need to use two nodes to get it and it may solve all our sustain issues completely. I'm pretty much a newbie on POE so if someone can explain things I'll be glad.

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Edzilla wrote:

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aristona37 wrote:

I'm currently level 46 with this build. I liked it but I seem to be wasting so much HP when using Frenzy. It takes like 50HP each hit and even by using flasks, my hp keeps going down.

What do you think about Vaal Pact? We only need to use two nodes to get it and it may solve all our sustain issues completely. I'm pretty much a newbie on POE so if someone can explain things I'll be glad.

Do you not use lifeleech? Life leech + your natural regen should be more then enough.

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aristona37 wrote:

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Edzilla wrote:

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aristona37 wrote:

I'm currently level 46 with this build. I liked it but I seem to be wasting so much HP when using Frenzy. It takes like 50HP each hit and even by using flasks, my hp keeps going down.

What do you think about Vaal Pact? We only need to use two nodes to get it and it may solve all our sustain issues completely. I'm pretty much a newbie on POE so if someone can explain things I'll be glad.

Do you not use lifeleech? Life leech + your natural regen should be more then enough.

Not on single target dps.

Running Frenzy - WED - Faster Attacks - Added Lightning
DPS 830, Mana Cost 44, my total hp is 800. (700 with buff)

AOE skill is LA - Chain - LMP
140 DPS and 42 mana cost.

The problem is frenzy only. I have life leech gem but I don't see much difference at all. I get like 10hp maximum between each attack since they do not heal instant.

What would you suggest?

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aristona37 wrote:

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Edzilla wrote:

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aristona37 wrote:

I'm currently level 46 with this build. I liked it but I seem to be wasting so much HP when using Frenzy. It takes like 50HP each hit and even by using flasks, my hp keeps going down.

What do you think about Vaal Pact? We only need to use two nodes to get it and it may solve all our sustain issues completely. I'm pretty much a newbie on POE so if someone can explain things I'll be glad.

Do you not use lifeleech? Life leech + your natural regen should be more then enough.

Not on single target dps.

Running Frenzy - WED - Faster Attacks - Added Lightning
DPS 830, Mana Cost 44, my total hp is 800. (700 with buff)

AOE skill is LA - Chain - LMP
140 DPS and 42 mana cost.

The problem is frenzy only. I have life leech gem but I don't see much difference at all. I get like 10hp maximum between each attack since they do not heal instant.

What would you suggest?

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Swap Added Lightning with Life Leech for Frenzy
Use LA + LMP + Pierce + WED for AoE ( alot more dps because no chain and less mana cost )

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AthenaUS wrote:

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Swap Added Lightning with Life Leech for Frenzy
Use LA + LMP + Pierce + WED for AoE ( alot more dps because no chain and less mana cost )

I really needed to step in here to correct your statement. Your a classic case of people who think sheet DPS is the same as actual DPS.

I'm going to make it very simple here. Lets say you do 1k LA + LMP + Chain DPS. Your firing 3 projectiles at 1k DPS each, and each one chains 2 times in a pack?? I think you can do the math. That's closer to 10k actual DPS.

Sorry bud but there is absolutely no substitute or comparison to chain and its actual DPS potential. You are severely gimping ur spec without it.