BUILD OUT OF COMMISSION....NO LONGER VIABLE DUE TO IDIOTIC CHANGE TO IRON REFLEXES

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Yagamai wrote:

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AthenaUS wrote:

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Swap Added Lightning with Life Leech for Frenzy
Use LA + LMP + Pierce + WED for AoE ( alot more dps because no chain and less mana cost )

I really needed to step in here to correct your statement. Your a classic case of people who think sheet DPS is the same as actual DPS.

I'm going to make it very simple here. Lets say you do 1k LA + LMP + Chain DPS. Your firing 3 projectiles at 1k DPS each, and each one chains 2 times in a pack?? I think you can do the math. That's closer to 10k actual DPS.

Sorry bud but there is absolutely no substitute or comparison to chain and its actual DPS potential. You are severely gimping ur spec without it.

And chain does -50% damage, gives 200% mana cost and doesnt always chain.

chain = -50%
lmp = -30%

= 20% damage remaining.

My build:
only lmp that reduces damage = -30%

= 70% damage remaining = 3.5* more damage than with chain.
Pierce can hit more targets than chain does as well ( if it pierces two targets, huge % chance with projectile weakness curse ) Also probably 1/3 or 1/2 the mana cost compared to when you use chain.

I'm well into 1000+ hours played and tried pretty much every build out there so dont tell me im wrong.

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Yagamai wrote:

I just explain why people shouldnt use chain togather with LMP and still you flame me LOL to many guys with iq of a fish here.

AGAIN:

Lets say you do 1k dps WITHOUT support gems:
LMP = -30%
Chain = -50%
Total = -80%
= 200 dps

LMP = -30%
Pierce = -0%
Total = -30%
= 700 dps

= 3.5x more dps.

I even prefer piercing targets over chaining because you can hit alot more than 2 extra and saves double the mana cost.

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Edzilla wrote:

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Yagamai wrote:

I just explain why people shouldnt use chain togather with LMP and still you flame me LOL to many guys with iq of a fish here.

AGAIN:

Lets say you do 1k dps WITHOUT support gems:
LMP = -30%
Chain = -50%
Total = -80%
= 200 dps

LMP = -30%
Pierce = -0%
Total = -30%
= 700 dps

= 3.5x more dps.

I even prefer piercing targets over chaining because you can hit alot more than 2 extra and saves double the mana cost.

It's more like:

LMP = -30%
Chain = -50%
Total = -80%
= 200 dps x 6 = 1200dps

Vs

LMP = -30%
Pierce = -0%
Total = -30%
= 700 dps

Each projectile(of the three) chain twice.

Derp.

Not to mention, more shots = more chance to shock + longer duration (since there is lower wait time between bolts hitting targets, due to the projectiles distance traveling from chain is much shorter then normal) which = a lot more dps.

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Yagamai wrote:

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Edzilla wrote:

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Yagamai wrote:

I just explain why people shouldnt use chain togather with LMP and still you flame me LOL to many guys with iq of a fish here.

AGAIN:

Lets say you do 1k dps WITHOUT support gems:
LMP = -30%
Chain = -50%
Total = -80%
= 200 dps

LMP = -30%
Pierce = -0%
Total = -30%
= 700 dps

= 3.5x more dps.

I even prefer piercing targets over chaining because you can hit alot more than 2 extra and saves double the mana cost.

It's more like:

LMP = -30%
Chain = -50%
Total = -80%
= 200 dps x 6 = 1200dps

Vs

LMP = -30%
Pierce = -0%
Total = -30%
= 700 dps

Each projectile(of the three) chain twice.

Derp.

Not to mention, more shots = more chance to shock + longer duration (since there is lower wait time between bolts hitting targets, due to the projectiles distance traveling from chain is much shorter then normal) which = a lot more dps.

1. You forgot the 700 x 3 ( LMP ) = 2100
2. You get longer duration shocks with more damage not hitting more often.
3. You forgot about pierce, which makes the 2100 * 1 to X
4. You forgot about the fact that the chaining doesnt ALWAYS chain twice.

BIG DERP

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Yagamai wrote:

Well I can tell you that chain doesnt chain 100%. I think it works just like Arc which also doesnt chain 100%