BUILD OUT OF COMMISSION....NO LONGER VIABLE DUE TO IDIOTIC CHANGE TO IRON REFLEXES

I would like clarify to everyone that the reason I am quitting is not because this build is not viable. This duelist build hardly got affected and still shines in the obviously still "path of life nodes" the game sees to be. Do not be torn, because this build got lucky in the sense it barely got affected. This build is still top tier.

The reason I am quitting is because how hard my other characters got hit that I was starting to enjoy. Monster damage is still high and some of my characters (like my wander) doesn't have access to a lot of life nodes to begin with, and now hes totally butchered. I am also quitting because I was expecting the "re-balance" to remove the need to get as many life nodes possible and be more creative, but it's apparent life nodes are more important then ever now.

TLDR:
Me quitting has nothing to do with this build. The build is great and is still amazing.
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Yagamai wrote:
Elemental Bow Duelist

I will keep this alive for you Athene :) Played about a 1000 hours myself. Got banned on my main account ( Struyk ) but many people know me.


This is the worse tree I have ever seen. Scrubcore i'm assuming?
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
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Edzilla wrote:
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Yagamai wrote:
Elemental Bow Duelist

I will keep this alive for you Athene :) Played about a 1000 hours myself. Got banned on my main account ( Struyk ) but many people know me.


This is the worse tree I have ever seen. Scrubcore i'm assuming?


No its hardcore, am level 82. Im running with less life mods though because I don't take any damage to start with because of movement speed and damage.

Wrote 16 guides, got many many characters above 80 and played 1000+ hours.

This passive tree is perfect for 0.11.0 with the new life and armour changes.
Last edited by Yagamai#3710 on Jun 7, 2013, 5:00:14 PM
Thank you Athena for your hard work and it's good to see this build was not hugely affected
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Yagamai wrote:
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Edzilla wrote:
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Yagamai wrote:
Elemental Bow Duelist

I will keep this alive for you Athene :) Played about a 1000 hours myself. Got banned on my main account ( Struyk ) but many people know me.


This is the worse tree I have ever seen. Scrubcore i'm assuming?


No its hardcore, am level 82. Im running with less life mods though because I don't take any damage to start with because of movement speed and damage.

Wrote 16 guides, got many many characters above 80 and played 1000+ hours.

This passive tree is perfect for 0.11.0 with the new life and armour changes.


Would you recommend your build for starting in the onslaught league, or focus more on life nodes like Athena's build until better gear at end game?
Its fine for onslaught, just dont go solo
Well I'm a solo player so thats a problem heh, thanks anyways
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Yagamai wrote:
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Edzilla wrote:
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Yagamai wrote:
Elemental Bow Duelist

I will keep this alive for you Athene :) Played about a 1000 hours myself. Got banned on my main account ( Struyk ) but many people know me.


This is the worse tree I have ever seen. Scrubcore i'm assuming?


No its hardcore, am level 82. Im running with less life mods though because I don't take any damage to start with because of movement speed and damage.

Wrote 16 guides, got many many characters above 80 and played 1000+ hours.

This passive tree is perfect for 0.11.0 with the new life and armour changes.


Ok, anyone can write a guide - I do it everytime I get bored and have an idea - doesn't make me a professional. But, I do have common sense and a decent feeling for the game.

Biggest problem I see, besides you having nearly no life (game hasn't changed that much, get over yourself, you still need a shitload of life) is that you take really ineffecient nodes. All that middle crap is a waste of points. Most of the good stuff (which really isn't even that good, point-to-point wise) requires you get spend THREE points, on what normally 1-2 clicks gives you(talking about the resists nodes. Which in-fact, you do not even need with proper gear adjustments at end-game). Only thing worth getting in the middle, is health, irongrip, and vaal pact (generally speaking), and maybe the radius nodes if you're up top there and need them for your spec.

On top of that, you take the cloth and chain nodes. Anyone, who knows anything, about any type of "builds," know that those do not stack with IR, and it's basically an 8 armor node, which is really crap. The only reason people ever get armor/evasion combined nodes is when it gives you an alternate benefit, or gives a great deal of one or the other (like the leather and steel node in duelist, right of acceleration, for instance.)

Ok, i'm done bashing and criticizing - Sorry, but I wouldn't of said anything if you were so arrogant and full of yourself. Wake up buddy.

edit: For example.. This gives you 8 more armor/evasion then you previously had, PLUS, 12 life, 4 attack speed, and 30 dex. Not to mention, its all evasion rating, which inherently gives your more effective armor via IR.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
Last edited by Edzilla#0339 on Jun 7, 2013, 11:08:13 PM
1. Life is a buffer, you need less and less the more armour you have. Armour + Evasion + Health + Block = Effective Life
2. Irongrip is useless in an full elemental build, you will get maybe a 0.5% dps boost as you will be using a 1.55 bow with no phys mods.
3. Get vaal pact if you want to suicide. You got 0 phys damage so no life leech, your main defense are pots ( flask bonus passives + high armour = great sustain )
4. You need Armour + Evasion, because you will be getting Armour + Evasion gear which are alot better than pure evasion or pure armour nodes.
5. You took 8 points for 12% life 48% evasion instead of 6 points for 64% evasion + 64% armour?
NO THANKS.
Last edited by Yagamai#3710 on Jun 8, 2013, 6:06:35 AM
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Yagamai wrote:
1. Life is a buffer, you need less and less the more armour you have. Armour + Evasion + Health + Block = Effective Life
2. Irongrip is useless in an full elemental build, you will get maybe a 0.5% dps boost as you will be using a 1.55 bow with no phys mods.
3. Get vaal pact if you want to suicide. You got 0 phys damage so no life leech, your main defense are pots ( flask bonus passives + high armour = great sustain )
4. You need Armour + Evasion, because you will be getting Armour + Evasion gear which are alot better than pure evasion or pure armour nodes.
5. You took 8 points for 12% life 48% evasion instead of 6 points for 64% evasion + 64% armour?
NO THANKS.


I said "Generally speaking." Meaning, in a general state, that applies to everything, not just your build. Iron grip, vaal pack, and 8/8/12(now 6/6/10) life nodes are the only reason to even go middle is what I was trying to say.

Armor and evasion nodes don't apply when using Iron Reflexes.... It only takes one and applies it. Several quotes from Devs, including Chris, has stated this... For the second now lol. So your 64/64 is just... 64 pal.

Mess with the best, die like the rest.
Last edited by Edzilla#0339 on Jun 8, 2013, 8:50:22 AM

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