Cyclone

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Dragon585 wrote:

My op stated my disappointment with a new skill I had hoped to be just like whirlwind from d2. All I had to go from was a teaser video showing a character whirling through a pack of mobs. IT LOOKED JUST LIKE WHIRLWIND. The mechanics of it were not released before the actual skill. I saw the video and was so happy to see a whirlwind ability come to this game. I was sad to see this version. My feedback can be summed up simply. I wanted d2 ww. You can't fault me for being disappointed with something that is completely different from what I expected. I am NOT demanding GGG change this skill to be a clone of D2 WW. But that is what I would love to see.

So what feedback are you providing? You have given even less than I have in terms of usable feedback in this thread. All you have done is attack my idea of what I personally would like cyclone to be. It shows alot about your character that all you can do is insult people to make yourself feel better and elite. You are so quick to throw out insults and suggestions to go play what you consider inferior games. I really feel sorry for you. Maybe I was dropped on my head a child, but obviously you weren't hugged enough as a child. Take your elitist prick attitude somewhere else, because as you can plainly see, its unwanted here.

I don't have to like cyclone as it is now. Just like I don't have to use it. Just like you don't have to agree with me. It's called freedom. And personally, I hope you get a ban for being such a dickhead on the forums.

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Real_Wolf wrote:

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Dragon585 wrote:

My op stated my disappointment with a new skill I had hoped to be just like whirlwind from d2. All I had to go from was a teaser video showing a character whirling through a pack of mobs. IT LOOKED JUST LIKE WHIRLWIND. The mechanics of it were not released before the actual skill. I saw the video and was so happy to see a whirlwind ability come to this game. I was sad to see this version. My feedback can be summed up simply. I wanted d2 ww. You can't fault me for being disappointed with something that is completely different from what I expected. I am NOT demanding GGG change this skill to be a clone of D2 WW. But that is what I would love to see.

So what feedback are you providing? You have given even less than I have in terms of usable feedback in this thread. All you have done is attack my idea of what I personally would like cyclone to be. It shows alot about your character that all you can do is insult people to make yourself feel better and elite. You are so quick to throw out insults and suggestions to go play what you consider inferior games. I really feel sorry for you. Maybe I was dropped on my head a child, but obviously you weren't hugged enough as a child. Take your elitist prick attitude somewhere else, because as you can plainly see, its unwanted here.

I don't have to like cyclone as it is now. Just like I don't have to use it. Just like you don't have to agree with me. It's called freedom. And personally, I hope you get a ban for being such a dickhead on the forums.

Ignoring his feedback which is bad, I do note that you just make blanket statements of 'i wanted ww, this one should be a true whirlwind" with no actual statements of how it is similar.

The MS feels fairly similar, in that higher ms you move faster, but its still not run speed (any WW from D2 was NOT at run speed, it was slower, it was still fast, but definitely slower).

It does damage fairly similar, bar the slightly off aoe from minor desync, and the lower AoE in general which is hard to judge between two different games.

It DOES have an unfortunate reaction with armour, which is disappointingly overlooked by the developers with their 'it is the same as 70% effectiveness, just double aspd', and means non-high physical does not work, and even elemental does not (since no way you can shock stack unless you deal a significant % of the enemies life with that lightning hit).

It ironically fulfills something that I have been wanting since CB, an AoE for facebreaker, and it makes my facebreaker build SO much more effective than it was before.

It could do with a damage boost, just the same as all melee skills, only not realy, its more that ranged could do with some better balancing, but that isn't the point of the skill.

The REAL problem is the MINIMUM range. It is about twice as long as it should be, and makes using it as a fun skill like you used to use ww in the past to take out small groups useless. Under 3 people standing near each other? Takes too long as you spin too far away if you cyclone.

If they fixed that, and obviously worked on the general desync (doesn't seem as bad for me, maybe its because living in NZ everything desyncs a little, so I'm careful and know what i"m doing? I dunno, i just don't find it as bad as WB used to be, and flicker strike is 3x worse for me.) it would be a fine skill, weak, but worth using at least.

Ironically everyone is theorycrafting that ele will be better, but ele really doesn't seem significantly better so far, rather its only facebreaker that is working 'better', as ele is still cleave best

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reverendjester wrote:

I notice I sometimes get knocked out of cyclone early by a stun animation. I was wondering if this was caused by desync where the server thinks i haven't started the skill, but locally I have. The other possibility is that shield block will take you out of the cyclone animation. Does anyone know if shield block works while cycloning and if it does, does it remove you from using the ability?

Edit : Also, Rhoa charges seem to knock me out of cyclone as well. Are these a special type of stun that ignores cyclone's cannot be stunned rule, or is this a bug?

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Bakami wrote:

I need help figuring out how and if "critical weakness" curse works with cyclone.

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Bakami wrote:

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Bakami wrote:

I need help figuring out how and if "critical weakness" curse works with cyclone.

nobody?!