(HC/SC) Facebreaker + Cyclone - Fists of Fury Duelist [Videos Included]

6 linked my Carcass in like 100 fusings. Feels good.
10k dps on Cyclone now, and I can start experimenting using Item Rarity and Item Quantity gems without losing too much dps.

Daaaamn grats.

"

Acrosis wrote:

6 linked my Carcass in like 100 fusings. Feels good.

10k dps on Cyclone now, and I can start experimenting using Item Rarity and Item Quantity gems without losing too much dps.

very jealous of your success =). I'm so tempted to just buy like 15 exalted worth of fusings and go at it.. but I know with my luck I'd be better off trying to find a premade one haha. Congrats once again!

Scrounged up enough currency for a 5L carcass. The DPS increase after swapping to that + concentrated effect over life leech is insane. Up to 6.7k DPS now, though the lack of life leech is definitely going to take some getting used to.

The new unique hat. Why is there no discussion yet!?

Gems in this item are supported by:
level 18 melee physical damage
level 18 faster attacks
level 18 blind

adds 20-30 physical damage

+228% (probably 200-250 or something) armor and eva (228 = 462 armor, 666 evasion)

+219 maximum life (probably also 200-250)

10% chance to gain endurance charge when you block

extra gore

15% block chance

can't use chest armor


Could this be viable? It's like a freakin 7-linked helm with a mini-Kaom's effect to boot.

I'm thinking like...

Helm + Cyclone + Concentrated Effect + Added Fire Damage + Blood Magic

Warlord's Mark + Increased Area of Effect + Faster Casting + Blood Magic

Reduced Mana + Grace + Determination + Hatred

Reduced Mana + (2 of Vitality/Haste/Purity) + (Molten Shell/Enduring Cry)


Nabbing that would make Facebreaking even cheaper...no weapon to worry about, no chest to worry about. Only thing is Lioneye's would have to be replaced with a high ele resist shield.

It would end up being tankier than the current Abyssus/Carcass route due to the +HP, the blind, and the lack of Abyssus's negative effect.

More damage for those who can't afford a 6L, less potential damage for those who can, though, since less phys damage than Abyssus and no added area effect from Carcass.

"

Phylaris wrote:

The new unique hat. Why is there no discussion yet!?

Wasn't aware there was one. Thanks for the heads up.

At first glance, No Chest Armour is a killer for this one. We lose our only remaining 6L area and in effect this takes away our helm's 4 slots as well. You will have no slots to run support skills.

So it's either:

1. Lv18 MeleePhys + Lv18 FasterAttacks + Lv18 Blind + 3 supports
(BM + concEffect + incrAoE / BM + Culling + AddedFire) + Cyclone; or

2. Lv20 MeleePhys + Lv20 FasterAttacks + 3 supports + Cyclone

The new helm downgrades MeleePhys and FasterAttacks, plus you cannot use ConcEffect directly, plus you lose the defensive stats from your chest slot, plus you lose 4 additional slots. The endurance charge on block is nice, but I can just cast Enduring Cry normally. It's not like it's easy to fit in block into fb builds anyways.

This helm looks like it's giving you Blind for free, but in reality, it means you cannot use ConcEffect and AddedFireDmg together. Use it if you don't mind having greatly lowered offense (like halved or more probably compared to Abyssus) and the loss of 4 slots in exchange for 200 more base HP (which is not insignificant I admit). Whether your other defenses are better is debatable IMO.

You pay a huge price in return for the perceived increase in defenses. If you ask me, this helm is not recommended over the standard Carcass+Abyssus combo.

"

Myrthr wrote:

"

Phylaris wrote:

The new unique hat. Why is there no discussion yet!?

Wasn't aware there was one. Thanks for the heads up.

At first glance, No Chest Armour is a killer for this one. We lose our only remaining 6L area.

So it's either:

1. Lv18 MeleePhys + Lv18 FasterAttacks + Lv18 Blind + 3 supports (reducedMana + concEffect + incrAoE?) + Cyclone; or

2. Lv20 MeleePhys + Lv20 FasterAttacks + 3 supports + Cyclone

The new helm is a definite no-go. You downgrade MeleePhys and Faster Attacks, plus you increase the blood cost, plus you cannot use ConcEffect directly, plus you lose the defensive stats from your chest slot. You would have to be insane to try to build around this. I'll just cast Enduring Cry like a normal person thank you. It's not like it's easy to fit in block into fb builds anyways.

Not worth it for Facebreaker builds despite the 20-30 phys damage/gore effect suggesting it's an FB item. You will have your damage significantly gimped and have cyclone become near unusable due to high cost. Why on earth did we need another FB helm anyways??

I see your point, but I do have to point out that you actually get tankier with the new helm.

Abysuss + Carcass Jack adds up to like 1500-1600 armor+eva and around 60 HP.
The new helm adds up to around 1200-1300 armor+eva with a good roll and I'm assuming up to like 250 HP.

Additionally, there's no huge physical damage intake effect, and the blind + block decrease the chance you get hit.

So, overall, in terms of tankiness you're going up in my opinion.


The decrease in damage and gem level I agree with.

I think if the helm settles into a reasonable price range, though, it could be a great gap between 5L carcass and 6L carcass. The damage is definitely a step down for 6L's, but it's a step up for 5L's both in terms of damage and tankiness I'm thinking.

"

Myrthr wrote:

"

Phylaris wrote:

The new unique hat. Why is there no discussion yet!?

Wasn't aware there was one. Thanks for the heads up.

At first glance, No Chest Armour is a killer for this one. We lose our only remaining 6L area and in effect this takes away our helm's 4 slots as well. You will have no slots to run support skills.

So it's either:

1. Lv18 MeleePhys + Lv18 FasterAttacks + Lv18 Blind + 3 supports
(BM + concEffect + incrAoE / BM + Culling + AddedFire) + Cyclone; or

2. Lv20 MeleePhys + Lv20 FasterAttacks + 3 supports + Cyclone

The new helm downgrades MeleePhys and FasterAttacks, plus you cannot use ConcEffect directly, plus you lose the defensive stats from your chest slot, plus you lose 4 additional slots when you already don't have enough to start with. The endurance charge on block is nice, but I can just cast Enduring Cry normally. It's not like it's easy to fit in block into fb builds anyways.

Overreacted a bit. this helm is ok if you don't mind having greatly lowered offense in exchange for 200 more base HP (which is not insignificant). Whether your other defenses are better are debatable IMO. All I can say is you will pay a huge price in return for the perceived increase in defenses.

Yeah I agree now. I think this helm will function great as a transition phase until 6L, but once the endgame 6L phase is reached the regular facebreaker path will be superior.

@Phylaris You caught me in my habit of editing my own posts xxx times after I write them. :D