(HC/SC) Facebreaker + Cyclone - Fists of Fury Duelist [Videos Included]

@Texa

Why Added Fire Damage over Melee Physical Damage?
Also, what are the support gems in level of importance?

ATM I have Cyclone + Life Leech + Blood Magic + Melee Physical Damage.

Should I add Fire Damage, Faster Attacks, or Concentrated Effect when I upgrade to 5L?



Also, how much does a Carcass Jack cost, roughly?

(And as a side thing, how did you end up nabbing the 5L Carcass? You said previously you couldn't afford one.)
Last edited by Phylaris#5088 on May 18, 2013, 2:11:26 AM
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ericcol2p wrote:
After some advice earned from Texazon,

gear
Spoiler


Atm im running just 4 auras (not enought cash to buy alphas howl)

ress 80/54/80 - tommorow im changing boots for tri resist so it will be overcapped 10% 80/80/80
After that im rushing for alphas howl :)

Atm dps 7,324 on cyclone and 14,2k on infernal blow (which im using only to cancel desync lol)
armor: 22,199 which is enought to solo 70+ maps
hp 3,924 after reservation
regen 231 (no vitality used yet:<)

I truly recommend this build for ppl which are worried about that how it deal in late game. I have ranger LA and its way weaker than my fb duelist.


Just wondering, why did you swap out of your previous shield? Is there some notable advantage provided by Lioneye's besides the high armor/HP?
Last edited by Phylaris#5088 on May 18, 2013, 2:05:38 AM
Because quality on Melee Phys isn't calculated correctly for Facebreaker.
Added Fire gives the most tooltip dps after Conc Effect and Melee Phys, but I prefer Faster Attacks because of how Cyclone works.
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Acrosis wrote:
Because quality on Melee Phys isn't calculated correctly for Facebreaker.
Added Fire gives the most tooltip dps after Conc Effect and Melee Phys, but I prefer Faster Attacks because of how Cyclone works.


So if I'm poor and still using un-qualitied gems, Melee Phys would be superior?

Also, shouldn't melee technically be superior either way if you're choosing between the two, since it scales better against armor, and hatred also scales off of it?
Last edited by Phylaris#5088 on May 18, 2013, 2:08:43 AM
Your main 4L should be Blood Magic, Melee Phys and Conc Effect, preferably.
I would recommend getting a quality Cyclone. You can get over 10% easily for a few Chaos Orbs.

Also, a high rolled Carcass is about an exalted. A 5L with decent rolls is 2 exalted at the cheapest.
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ericcol2p wrote:


According to "i wont say its better than la ranger" yes it is, my la ranger is actually good geared with damn high aoe dps but on single target u just cant compare with fb duelist:)





And yes, cyclone is gr8 aoe skill and gr8 single target skill:)


thing is fb cyclone dmg has limited sources so u'll reach the point where u cant improve ur dps further even if u have a ton of currencies. Whereas for LA u can keep upgrading ur dps from a lot more choices. So aoe wise LA wins if gear isnt an issue and single target wise it shouldnt lose either if u factor in shock stacks.

N yes I agree cyclone works well for single target too, I don't have any other attk skills apart from cyclone :)

I think the most irritating thing bout fb for me is when i pick up n auto equip a weap without realising it then cycloning into a huge mob n dying coz all a sudden im not leeching enough life back lol.
WTS Tons of good stuff : http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/379249
WTB Godly MF witch gear : http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/346658
Paying VERY well, just let me know if u have upgrades for me
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Phylaris wrote:
@Texa

Why Added Fire Damage over Melee Physical Damage?
Also, what are the support gems in level of importance?

ATM I have Cyclone + Life Leech + Blood Magic + Melee Physical Damage.

Should I add Fire Damage, Faster Attacks, or Concentrated Effect when I upgrade to 5L?



Also, how much does a Carcass Jack cost, roughly?

(And as a side thing, how did you end up nabbing the 5L Carcass? You said previously you couldn't afford one.)


I think you missunderstood my post. Melee Physical Damage support gem will grant you higher DPS boost than Added Fire, BUT the quality of Added fire on the other hand is superior to Melee Physical Damage quality (15% Increase Fire Damage > 10% Melee Physical Damage).

Like Acrosis said quality on Melee Phys isn't calculated correctly for Facebreaker.

I'm pretty sure you mistaken me with some1 else, I can't recoll saying that I couldn't afford 5L Carcass + in fact I never had one, I went straight up for 6L.

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0rochi wrote:
I think the most irritating thing bout fb for me is when i pick up n auto equip a weap without realising it then cycloning into a huge mob n dying coz all a sudden im not leeching enough life back lol.


Options -> UI -> unbind Auto-equip
ign: Xeplion
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Texazon wrote:
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Phylaris wrote:
@Texa

Why Added Fire Damage over Melee Physical Damage?
Also, what are the support gems in level of importance?

ATM I have Cyclone + Life Leech + Blood Magic + Melee Physical Damage.

Should I add Fire Damage, Faster Attacks, or Concentrated Effect when I upgrade to 5L?



Also, how much does a Carcass Jack cost, roughly?

(And as a side thing, how did you end up nabbing the 5L Carcass? You said previously you couldn't afford one.)


I think you missunderstood my post. Melee Physical Damage support gem will grant you higher DPS boost than Added Fire, BUT the quality of Added fire on the other hand is superior to Melee Physical Damage quality (15% Increase Fire Damage > 10% Melee Physical Damage).

Like Acrosis said quality on Melee Phys isn't calculated correctly for Facebreaker.

I'm pretty sure you mistaken me with some1 else, I can't recoll saying that I couldn't afford 5L Carcass + in fact I never had one, I went straight up for 6L.

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0rochi wrote:
I think the most irritating thing bout fb for me is when i pick up n auto equip a weap without realising it then cycloning into a huge mob n dying coz all a sudden im not leeching enough life back lol.


Options -> UI -> unbind Auto-equip


Oops! I meant that for the guy you helped out on like page 33.

Should I take the Endurance Charge or the skill point in Merc?

Also, er, how is Physical Damage Reduction calculated?
With around 9K armor I'm getting 68%, whereas you said you were getting 53% with 25K armor.
Am I looking at the wrong stat?
Last edited by Phylaris#5088 on May 18, 2013, 3:29:54 PM
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Phylaris wrote:
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Texazon wrote:
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Phylaris wrote:
@Texa

Why Added Fire Damage over Melee Physical Damage?
Also, what are the support gems in level of importance?

ATM I have Cyclone + Life Leech + Blood Magic + Melee Physical Damage.

Should I add Fire Damage, Faster Attacks, or Concentrated Effect when I upgrade to 5L?



Also, how much does a Carcass Jack cost, roughly?

(And as a side thing, how did you end up nabbing the 5L Carcass? You said previously you couldn't afford one.)


I think you missunderstood my post. Melee Physical Damage support gem will grant you higher DPS boost than Added Fire, BUT the quality of Added fire on the other hand is superior to Melee Physical Damage quality (15% Increase Fire Damage > 10% Melee Physical Damage).

Like Acrosis said quality on Melee Phys isn't calculated correctly for Facebreaker.

I'm pretty sure you mistaken me with some1 else, I can't recoll saying that I couldn't afford 5L Carcass + in fact I never had one, I went straight up for 6L.

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0rochi wrote:
I think the most irritating thing bout fb for me is when i pick up n auto equip a weap without realising it then cycloning into a huge mob n dying coz all a sudden im not leeching enough life back lol.


Options -> UI -> unbind Auto-equip


Oops! I meant that for the guy you helped out on like page 33.

Should I take the Endurance Charge or the skill point in Merc?

Also, er, how is Physical Damage Reduction calculated?
With around 9K armor I'm getting 68%, whereas you said you were getting 53% with 25K armor.
Am I looking at the wrong stat?


Higher lvl -> less physical reduction.
ign: Xeplion
Hmk. I've spent some time grinding up and hit level 61 a couple minutes ago. Could I get some feedback on where I should head next?

Gear:


Soon to replace boots with
upon level up.
Auras included, I'm at 82/76/82 currently, should be maxed out at 82/82/82 when I level up.
3.3k HP, around 9300 armor.
Sitting at around 2K DPS on my Cyclone.

My current issue is with my lack of damage without Abyssus, but I'm worried that without Lioneye's Glare I won't be able to sustain the increased physical damage taken on the Abyssus. Should I just go ahead and try to buy one anyways?

Also, in order of importance, what should my purchases be? I'm pretty poor so I can only go for one upgrade at a time.
Last edited by Phylaris#5088 on May 19, 2013, 5:51:53 AM

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