[0.11.2] THE BEST DW Simple Tanky High Dps Hybrid Cleave GUIDE-7 auras/30kDPS/5.5kHP/37kArm

Wow thats a quick reponse! Yeah well its decent, still got some armor nods to pick up but else im doing quite well, with some weakness on few map rolls. Oh 4k, well that is alot indeed. Yeah ive some points left to deal with, at level 74 atm :) Thanks for your information, then it all makes sense, that im missing out on lvls, 6L, gem lvls and could get much stronger weapons but that will cost a fortune :)

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Jonta wrote:

Wow thats a quick reponse! Yeah well its decent, still got some armor nods to pick up but else im doing quite well, with some weakness on few map rolls. Oh 4k, well that is alot indeed. Yeah ive some points left to deal with, at level 74 atm :) Thanks for your information, then it all makes sense, that im missing out on lvls, 6L, gem lvls and could get much stronger weapons but that will cost a fortune :)

Yea, you just have to wait ;)
Btw for me your weapons are pretty fine, that second one with 250 dps could be changed, (well... i got 290 dps axe for sale ;))
Anyway I always prefer survivability over dps, i could have 20k+ dps but like 3k hp and that would be really hard to lvl up and facetank some bosses... Same with reflect, thats why i balanced everything :)

Thx for the reply Seb.
I see what your saying, makes sense.

Also wanna give a thumbs up for your guide!


cheers!
Sath

i was curious, whats the difference in dps running the 7 auras as opposed to doing BM and running the typical 3 (anger,wrath,grace) ? and basically being able to focus less on mana gear & nodes giving you more access to dmg nodes and mods.
im kind of torn between doing the mana thing but hate hassling with mana mods,nodes and so forth, its just a pain. ya BM is usually the easy way out, but since this my 3rd mellee I was figuring on trying something a bit different for me.
do you have like another toon that basically the same build but is bm and you can try swapping the gear and see the difference just curious.
I always wondered if it makes a big difference not having to worry about mana mods and nodes and be able to focus on the more dmg mods (+fire,cold,etc) I guess it does just come down to the armor and gears ya got. I pretty much play self found but I have a lot of decent gears for my alts stashed away.thanks for any info

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Chongo666 wrote:

i was curious, whats the difference in dps running the 7 auras as opposed to doing BM and running the typical 3 (anger,wrath,grace) ? and basically being able to focus less on mana gear & nodes giving you more access to dmg nodes and mods.
im kind of torn between doing the mana thing but hate hassling with mana mods,nodes and so forth, its just a pain. ya BM is usually the easy way out, but since this my 3rd mellee I was figuring on trying something a bit different for me.
do you have like another toon that basically the same build but is bm and you can try swapping the gear and see the difference just curious.
I always wondered if it makes a big difference not having to worry about mana mods and nodes and be able to focus on the more dmg mods (+fire,cold,etc) I guess it does just come down to the armor and gears ya got. I pretty much play self found but I have a lot of decent gears for my alts stashed away.thanks for any info

Im not author of this thread but in my own experience, i had to pick up some mana gear and +30 int nod in order to run everything. But in higher levels you'll reach the +10 int nods and some +attributes on your gear will do all good, also reduced mana lvl 20 gem allows me to run 4 auras on mana/3 on hp :P

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Chongo666 wrote:

i was curious, whats the difference in dps running the 7 auras as opposed to doing BM and running the typical 3 (anger,wrath,grace) ? and basically being able to focus less on mana gear & nodes giving you more access to dmg nodes and mods.
im kind of torn between doing the mana thing but hate hassling with mana mods,nodes and so forth, its just a pain. ya BM is usually the easy way out, but since this my 3rd mellee I was figuring on trying something a bit different for me.
do you have like another toon that basically the same build but is bm and you can try swapping the gear and see the difference just curious.
I always wondered if it makes a big difference not having to worry about mana mods and nodes and be able to focus on the more dmg mods (+fire,cold,etc) I guess it does just come down to the armor and gears ya got. I pretty much play self found but I have a lot of decent gears for my alts stashed away.thanks for any info

Hi Chongo666!
Its quite simple. And yes lazy ppl go for Blood Magic in passive because they don't know they can handle skills with mana leech or just use a Blood magic gem with skills.(lol)

Before i will explain you how strong are auras : I have to tell u I don't use atm any mana gear or extra mana nodes in passive tree(You have like 5 mana left running 4 % auras on ur mana). I even didn't use any mana gear except 1 nice +50 mana ring with 28% chaos resist i had.
At my lvl i focus now only on hp gear. You are getting enough int nodes(which are for your auras,curses) going for Inner force and more HP. That gives you also more mana.
So if u don't wanna use blood magic gem, u need at least 2% mana leech and i think these int nodes near templar will be even enough + physical weapons to handle ur mana. BUT end game you will use anyway blood magic gem if u get 5l chest or 6l.

So about auras...
With running auras, % auras on your mana you are getting: offence and defence. And with Inner force every aura you use is boosted by 30%!
So about % auras
Hatred
Increase your global dps, more physical damage you have - more cold damage you do.
"You and nearby allies add x% of your Physical Damage as Cold Damage".

Thats why i prefer use pure axes or swords with mostly pure physical damage, because 25%(32% with Inner force) of your physical dps from cleave with support gems will be converted and added as extra cold damage.
Thats very solid aura!

Purity
Do you have problem with your resists at merciless? You don't want to spend extra points in passive tree to get more resists?

No problem, extra 35% to all elemental resists at 20lvl gem of Purity with Inner force !
And only possible way to get 85% to all elemental.
Haven't you decided yet? :)

Determination
"You and nearby allies gain x% more Armour."
50% more armour at 20lvl gem.
And 65%! with Inner Force. This aura is beast if you have some evasion /armour gear with Iron Reflexes.

Haste
17% more attack (with IF) speed which gives me 2k dps at my lvl.
8% more movement speed, to clear maps faster etc.
17% more cast speed - for curses, or even totems.

Vitality you can use this aura instead of Haste if you wanna more defence
extra 2% life regen, which gives you like 100 more life regen with 6k hp.

AURAS are soo powerfull with Inner force in this game, i can't imagine playing without them and just go BM in passive and run only wrath, grace, anger - don't forget Inner force also works with these 3 auras.. Going Blood magic as a melee is suicide for me, of course rangers go BM cuz they are ranged but they are still squishy for me.
With 7 auras you will use BM gem. With 6 auras you will have like 100 mana left to easy handle ur Cleave/ Dual strike on it. So don't worry. All you need is mana leech, and its not hard to get it.

Also about 7 auras, everyone will like play with u, cuz not many ppl run 7 auras and you can support every member in your party with your auras. Isn't it a good deal? To be a Support, Tanker with high armour, resist, hp and doing very high dps..? I think it is.. :)

Thanks for the detailed response , you sold me on it , I'm gonna go for it!!!!!

Great Build! One quick question - do you level cleve & dual strike up to 20?

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Great Build! One quick question - do you level cleve & dual strike up to 20?

Yes i do level up to 20 dual strike and cleave cuz a lot of dmg come from these gems(If i were only ele cleave without blood magic gem i would keep the gem at 4lvl. )

But good idea is to don't lvl up cleave past 4lvl if your mana leech sux, i heard about that and used 4lvl cleave for some 50% regen maps etc, but now when i have blood magic gem u need max all gems, except clarity early and maybe mid game (cuz it will take ur whole mana).
Remember with 4lvl cleave u losing dmg.. cuz we are mostly physical, so better get good weapons and use 2% mana leech.

Great. Thanks!