[Version 0.10.7] gh0un´s Point Blank, Rain of Arrows Bowrauder

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VenatorPoE wrote:

Bump for a great build plus a question for Gh0un - what do you think about this passive tree?

No alchemist, so it will need lifeleech support to be safe in every map.
Losing that support to lifeleech is not worth it imo.
That build has more liferegen in expense of damage, but unless you have very good gear or kaoms, alchemist will grant more life per second (even without adding instant life flasks to the equation).

The 4 elemental passives on the upper left + the two area of effect passives are indeed not that great, but they are not that bad either.
I am herping a little hard on the increased AoE, so i kinda want those two 4% passives.
I might try a variation where i dont take those two AoE passives, and also respec the 4 passives behind them, which would give me 6 passives (with that i can reach golem blood on my lvl 100 build).
If i deem the lost AoE radius to be detrimental, ill keep those points up there, because with only 4 points respecced instead of 6, i cant really reach any other significant passive node on my currently planned lvl 100 passive tree.

As for elemental adaption...
I am doing -maximum player resistance maps just fine, thats why i will never take it.
I did a map with -23% maximum res, elemental reflect, vulnerability, 91% damage as additional lightning, haste mod and 50% slower life regen, and still got it done.
The map had cinder elementals. That was basically the hardest map i ever did (even harder than the 75+ maps i did), but still got out just fine without elemental adaption.

I might definitely try something like this for lvl 100:


Or something like this:


Or this:


There are definitely some variations i will tinker with, but i will never spec out of alchemist :)
I am currently tending towards the last one i posted.
With that buld i could reach over 8000 life without kaoms, get the additional crit on the top left, and thus be at over 20% critchance with a 400% critmultiplier.

Awesome, Gh0un, thanks for the response. I'm just looking into customizing the build to suit my style of play the best, and the feedback is invaluable. You certainly gave me quite some ideas throughout the thread; I've read almost every single post in it already.

So yeah on a side note; I want to make another character, and I really like RoA, so I've spent some time reading up on the available information and tinkering with the passives a bit.

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gh0un wrote:

I dont think people realize how strong alchemist is.
On my main flask (the first one in the flask tab) i would get 3767 health over 8 seconds.
With alchemist i get 5247 over 8 seconds.

May i ask you how could you get 3767 over 8 s from your flask? your base flask recover is 1843 over 8s can you got 30% increase from passive and 14% from belt, that's still far from 3767.
I use a similar build but LA instead of RoA, before i get lioneye critical is useless. I want to free the life leech slot but it will take me 4 points to get alchemist alone,is it worth?

Gh0un, a question.

Lets say you put rain of arrows on a ranged attack totem. Will the point blank distance be calculated from where you stand or from where the totem is placed?

Could you test this if possible?

Thanks

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Grimlocke_ wrote:

Gh0un, a question.

Lets say you put rain of arrows on a ranged attack totem. Will the point blank distance be calculated from where you stand or from where the totem is placed?

Could you test this if possible?

Thanks

To keep it short and to the point...

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Odypus wrote:

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gh0un wrote:

I dont think people realize how strong alchemist is.
On my main flask (the first one in the flask tab) i would get 3767 health over 8 seconds.
With alchemist i get 5247 over 8 seconds.

May i ask you how could you get 3767 over 8 s from your flask? your base flask recover is 1843 over 8s can you got 30% increase from passive and 14% from belt, that's still far from 3767.
I use a similar build but LA instead of RoA, before i get lioneye critical is useless. I want to free the life leech slot but it will take me 4 points to get alchemist alone,is it worth?

I had a slightly different belt and also the two other "flask life" passives when i made that calculation.
Right now i have a belt with 14% increased flask life recovery rate and the 30% increased flask life recovered from passives (without alchemist), so the calculation is a little different.
I cant know for sure how exactly the belt recovery rate and the alchemist stack with each other, but i had used them multiplicatively (and i will use them multiplicatively in this equation aswell).

1843 x 1.3 x 1.14 = 2731 over 8 seconds
With alchemist:
1843 x 1.45 x 1.14 x 1.3 = 3960 over 8 seconds if you keep chaining them
(or 3848 if alchemist and the belt stack additively)

Without alchemist the flask grants 341 lifereg per second, while it grants 495 lifereg per second with alchemist on my current setup.
So basically thats over 150 liferegen for a single point on my current setup.
If you dont want to get the critical strike chance or the life above alchemist, then its obviously not just a single passive though, so keep that in mind.
But as a comparison, golem blood grants 1.5% liferegen.
With 6500 life, that amounts to 6500 x 0.015 = 97 liferegen per second.
So lets say i just went down to alchemist for that passive alone and did not get anything else down in the very bottom right.
That basically means i get 150 lifereg for 4 passives.
If i were to go to golem blood, that would amount to 6 passives for 97 lifereg.

Leaving the other passives that you can get around golem blood or alchemist out of the equation, you basically decide between 4 passives for about 150 lifereg (regardless of life on gear) OR 6 passives for 97 lifereg (might be way less, or slightly more, depending on life on gear).
Since i also prefer crit, my choice is obvious: alchemist and surrounding passives.
You can also decide to get both, but im happy with my current regen, and i rather want more life and critchance now.

On a sidenote, the flask life passives are very very good if your gear is not that great yet, especially combined with a proper belt and alchemist. (i am talking about the two additional 15% flasklife passives to the right of thick skin).
I mean even with good gear they surpass the liferegen passives in strength, but with bad gear they are invaluable, which is why i had them specced for quite some time during my mapping phase where i only had about 4000-4500 life.

Damn, I kept searching "path of exile ranged attack totem point blank", ended up with nada. Thanks :)

Thank you for such a detailed explanation.
For now i will just take the 2 flask life node next to the thick skin since i don't have many sp left,but once i got lioneye I can refund 6 points from RT and Elemental adaption to take the full advantage of alchemist and crit node.

You don't need resolute technique, rain of arrows cannot miss.

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gh0un wrote:

You don't need resolute technique, rain of arrows cannot miss.

I know, but I run LA instead of RoA,just followed the idea of BM/7aura and damage coversion.