Solo Self-Found Manmode 1 Week Race (March 3rd Event)

This sounds like a lot of fun. I've made a couple of "manmode" characters in the past for no reason other than to see how viable the character build would be without twinking. A couple of things kill it for me:

1. I'm not gonna touch hardcore mode or races with a 10 foot pole as long as desync has a serious chance of getting me killed at any given time.
2. Ground Slam and Lightning Strike.
3. Multiboxing shouldn't be okay. I know the game has a problem giving people the right gems to make their builds work sometimes, but there's gotta be a better way. For the meantime, if you created a build that you knew needed specific gems to be viable and you didn't make the class that got those gems, then tough luck if you didn't happen to get them to drop. You know what you were getting yourself into. The game just isn't designed in a way that all builds and characters get equal opportunity right now.

If somebody wanted to run a softcore version of this race with 2 and 3 fixed, I'd be all over it.

Set up a google spreadsheet for everyone who wants to participate.

Just fill out the form..

Ill make a new thread later

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aoaa-FHkiWF7dEV1TlZaaHMxT0QwY0FQaGJFQldLc0E#gid=0


https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1GsFgoG5BFsCUUV_7mBK6uB04UEQzBmrZpu66VZ2LHJQ/viewform

tinyurl.com/manmode

Had to fix it^

Its now public

I've decided that if I participate I'm just gonna ditch going Strength nodes only since that would only work in Softcore and just do Red Gems only.

This is the chance for me to try a claw - vaal pact ranger and see if this combination can do any good.

Sounds fun im in

the only thing that sux is i HAVE to multibox if im not rolling marauder/templar because they are the only ones that get reduced mana.. and pretty much everyone needs that

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flab wrote:

The thing is, sweep (which I use a lot) or cleave with increased area of effect isn't much better (in the spirit of melee) than GS or LS. I'm basically a mobile shockwave totem with huge radius with sweep and the increased AOE passive and support.

Everyone's definition of melee varies a bit, some are a bit more strict than others, if you don't like it, don't use it I guess. I don't consider what I do true melee, others might.

Your melee weapon hits the enemy, its that simple.

GS and LS are ranged aoe attacks, its that simple lol.

Completely undermines the idea behind the race if you can pump AoE radius and do massive GS spam, or get LMP/Fork/Chain/GMP and make LS wipe out the screen.

If your definition of melee includes ranged aoe spells then you dont know what melee means.

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schisist wrote:

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flab wrote:

The thing is, sweep (which I use a lot) or cleave with increased area of effect isn't much better (in the spirit of melee) than GS or LS. I'm basically a mobile shockwave totem with huge radius with sweep and the increased AOE passive and support.

Everyone's definition of melee varies a bit, some are a bit more strict than others, if you don't like it, don't use it I guess. I don't consider what I do true melee, others might.

Your melee weapon hits the enemy, its that simple.

GS and LS are ranged aoe attacks, its that simple lol.

Completely undermines the idea behind the race if you can pump AoE radius and do massive GS spam, or get LMP/Fork/Chain/GMP and make LS wipe out the screen.

If your definition of melee includes ranged aoe spells then you dont know what melee means.

I thought the point was that GS/LS were attacking so far away from the character. Someone points out that sweep/cleave arnt far behind, and now were getting excuses as to why they are ok but not GS/LS. Maybe you haven't seen just how far away from the character and their weapon sweep and cleave go.

As far as all this garbage about whats in the spirit of the race, or undermining the idea, this is Kripp's race event, whatever he decides is allowed, its obviously within the spirit of the event. If you don't like it, go make your own race with its own rules. This isn't an official event that automatically effects you or anyone else.(seriously, make your own event, the more the better)

Just pointing out a logical fallacy.

If you cant handle that then maybe your fanboyism has taken over the greater portion of your personality.

Ground Slam and Lightning Strike are still considered Melee skills (despite what real world logic dictates) and still depend on Melee weapons for their damage. The devs clearly meant for them to be tools for Melee characters to use and Melee characters are always going to use them.

If Kripp decides that the playstyle behind them is enough to ban the skills for this race (he did disallow Dominating Blow), fine, but I think players are just hurting themselves just because they hate certain skills that are similar in playstyle to one that they find OP.