14th ranked streaming HC player Prozon hacked just minutes ago.Pictures included.

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MrH wrote:
He 100% deserved his account restored as he did nothing wrong at all.

And how do you know every single player who got hacked did something wrong?
Implement /players x already
Well it's better than anything blizzard would've done and announce anything and dupe all his items to right lol. It's fine glad you guys are fixing everything in the right way then. I will be playing this only for years to come. Trying to get more people onto it aswell.
Ok TL:DR is obsolete now.

Well since it is resolved that fast maybe you should warn streamers because their email is visible during logins.

The screens also show how suspicious behaviour looks like, so in case you got friends that are online you should create characters like "EPICITEMSmule" so somebody accessing the account will waste time.

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Thankfully there was no economic impact.

I tried my best to waste time of the bot/thief with one tab while I asked other friends to waste/time contact a dev/mod. I think I reached GGG_neon because his last posting was only some minutes prior to my pm.

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Probably using a vpn/proxy. So ip banning is useless.

While that might be useless to IP ban a Proxy.
GGG might add a private key to the client, so they can identify attackers and simply ban their client and prevent it from updating and IP ban his main IP if he tries to update.




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Well if it has been sold then the character shouldn't be stripped.




The suspicious thing was that the characters that were played went tp terraces I couldn't get a screen there because I created a default character because it seemed like the bot didn't have any checks.
He accepted the invite immediatly after you send the invite, so I tried to mess up the bot somehow.

When I did it during relog it spoke 1-3 words another friend tried to talk to via whisper but never got a response.


The logins logoffs were instantly, also it seemed he was less active the last days and the stream shows a video some days ago.


It behaved quiet much like a bot it walked straight from 1 vendor to another.

Really suspicious was the idling at Terraces, which also resulted in a rip.

I hope the account is monitored now or got a safetylog because I want to go to sleep.

I can provide more screens I made with the words it spoke or the chatlog if useful.


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So it begins. *popcorn*

This isn't funny this is damaging the reputation of the game.

Some really new users claim to be hacked and want a rollback... ok.

Some user claims to be hacked but he got an identical nick on a botterboard(Third party tools involved?)

Some sudden login at night, from an old alpha member with Gold Support(250$) and non humanlike behavior including a rip.

One handy thing for such situations would be a quick report, so mods can mute/tradelock those accounts if somebody sees a friend suddenly behaving really weird.

Also a cause should be found, because like I said using lists might work on Big games like D3, WoW etc. But a small indie game, would see many invalid login requests, which leads to ipbans.

If a PoE related site or PoEhelper is involved it should be noted.

I create new emails for each game, each information is different.
I don't load javascripts in general.
I change my pw on a regular basis.
If there is an allowed Helper like PoE Helper I compile it myself after reading.
I can write tools myself.
If there is no source I do a check with IDA, if uncommon antidebugging tricks are involved you can be sure there is suspicious code, you would wonder how many times "harmless" freeware tools contain malicious code.

I never got hacked.

Now compare me with an average user.
The average user certainly doesn't now assembler.

A simple javascript or a compiled update easily can contain a backdoor.

Especially on online RPGs you shouldn't trust anything.







Last edited by Hilbert on Feb 20, 2013, 10:14:26 PM
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MrH wrote:
He 100% deserved his account restored as he did nothing wrong at all.

And how do you know every single player who got hacked did something wrong?


maybe hes a little kid and watching porn sites got him hacked :P

shouldn't be doing that pornzon
This thread is now a social tool to demonstrate which people posting are whiny, spoiled, unreasonable little brats.

Basically everyone who posts something with the logic contained in this:

"WTFLUX I GT HACKED AND U SED NO RESTOR ! DEN U RESTRO DIS GAI WHEN HE GT HACKED ?? WTFFFF I MEEN I LUV U GGG AND POE BT FK U A LIL BIT! THIS CRY BABBY SHUD STAT OVER AGEN CUZ I CANT READ A SIMPLE POST EXPLAINING WHAT HAPPENED! NOW I NO 4 A FAKT DAT I NVR EVR BEN HAKKED IN 50 YEERS OF GAYMING SO DNT U TEL ME WUT I FINK I KNO CUZ KEEYLOGGAS JUS BOUNC OFF DIS! DIS IS JUST SHADY MANN !!"

Those people need to fuck themselves and die. No, really.
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Chris wrote:
I wish I could help in those situations but the economic damage and abuse would just be unfathomable :(

Didn't you guys say you had a system to track each item individually? Can't you just restore the items of the players who got hacked and delete the items from the hackers' accounts?


The problem is that if the hack report is fake (and so many of them appear to be scam attempts) then people who the items were legitimately traded to will lose the items. We can't do restorations in that way because then the whole trade system is undermined.

You would never want to trade for anything if there's a chance the guy who traded it to you could complain to support that he got hacked (and then the item vanishes).
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MrH wrote:
He 100% deserved his account restored as he did nothing wrong at all.

And how do you know every single player who got hacked did something wrong?


plz enough narutoetc... give it up already. Choose:

Be part of the solution
or
Be part of the problem

if you choose #2... just stop posting on the forums:
Because you aren't helping anyone. <--- that's a period
GGG did good here. This territory is always a bit muddy, but I think the stance on this specific case is good for everyone. Keep up the good work regarding addressing the issues at hand. Keeping the players in the loop as much as feasibly possible is always a plus and makes us customers/fans appreciate your service.

For everyone else, I wouldn't worry about GGG being swayed by 'zomg got hax0red help plox', or anything of the sorts. When something goes down that we really don't like then I would assume many rationale, well put posts will be made and GGG will probably listen.
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Last edited by Kowz on Feb 20, 2013, 10:21:50 PM
Good for you Chris!. I feel for you and GGG for some of the responses you're going to be receiving in regards to "this particular issue".

But imo: you did the right thing, in this case, under these circumstances.

to those that want to argue my point read the italicized part of my response again, especially the last 3 words. ty
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MrH wrote:
He 100% deserved his account restored as he did nothing wrong at all.

And how do you know every single player who got hacked did something wrong?


The difference is, GGG know for 100% it was their screw up, they can't say that about any other case.

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