The Exiled Sale Recipe Book (spoilers)

I can't find it in the initial post so I thought I'd mention this, even though It must be known.
But magic/rare identified maps give alchemy shards.
Mostly 1 per mod, but at least the elemental equilibrium mod gives 2 shards.

unfortunately this is almost the most useless recipe ever, no one sane would vendor maps for alch shards (unless maybe there would be recipe to get Cartographer's Chisel shard or some better currency) :(

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LJSilver wrote:

I can't find it in the initial post so I thought I'd mention this, even though It must be known.
But magic/rare identified maps give alchemy shards.
Mostly 1 per mod, but at least the elemental equilibrium mod gives 2 shards.

Spoiler

Those are very interesting. it seems there are different values in number of alchemy shards associated with different mods. While selling maps for alchemy shards seem very bad considering the other recipes they are part of and their intrinsic value, it is still an interesting mod-category to explore. We might find some interesting use at some point in open beta!

Has the updated rare-name recipe for Regals been figured out?

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overburn wrote:

unfortunately this is almost the most useless recipe ever, no one sane would vendor maps for alch shards

Depending on how the mods sum up, this may be a nice 'option' to turn Transmutation Orbs into Alchemys - of course only if you have a high amount of maps...

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Mr_Cee wrote:

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overburn wrote:

unfortunately this is almost the most useless recipe ever, no one sane would vendor maps for alch shards

Depending on how the mods sum up, this may be a nice 'option' to turn Transmutation Orbs into Alchemys - of course only if you have a high amount of maps...

except you can easily sell lvl 60 maps for 1 alch

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Suzumiyaharuhi wrote:

except you can easily sell lvl 60 maps for 1 alch

if this is the actual market value, I doubt it will stay on that level for long... (at least not in default)

You're right, level 60 maps are going to have a serious drop in price for OB (roughly nothing, they won't exist). However, even the lowest level maps are worth more than their vendor value by a noticeable amount. This is likely intended, given that most recipes are absolutely terrible ratios, such as the one to buy Chromatics.

Very useful, thank you.

One aspect of many that are lacking on this thread, but sharing now.

WISDOM SCROLLS + UNIDENTIFIED MAGIC PAY OUT AVERAGES
boots
23 item identified of that type = 65 alteration shards,4 wisdom shards,4 alchemy shards
gloves
13=41,1,0
helmet
20=48,5,4
belts
8=9,3,2 LOW PAYOUT
jewels
9=22,0,2


blue results over time
sample 1
58 = 122a, 14s, 6a
sample 2
63=168,20,4
sample 3
121=290,34,10

RESULTS per wisdom/magic item average total
2,39 alteration shards, 0.28 wisdom shards, 0.0826446280991736 alchemy shards
1 rare = 7-10 alteration shards

SO THE CHOICE IS BETWEEN:
1 WISDOM SCROLL + 2 TRANSMUTATION PER UNIDENTIFIED MAGIC OR 2.39 ALT SHARDs + 0.28 WIS SHARDs + 0.08 ALCHEMY SHARDs - 1 WISDOM SCROLL

OR 1 WISDOM FOR 7-10 ALT SHARDS PER RARE.

42-60 8 RARES WITH 8 WISDOM WHOSE ALTS ORBS(2 or 3) EXCHANGE FOR 8-12 WISDOM SCROLLS.

THE PRICE OF IDENTIFYING THINGS IS TOO EXPENSIVE IF I HAVE TO USE RECIPES TO GET WISDOM SCROLLS.

NEED TO WASTE 8.36 WISDOM SCROLLS + ACQUIRE 8.36 MAGICS BY MY OWN TIME AND EFFORT TO GET 1 ALT ORB THAT IF I USE TO GET WISDOM SCROLLS USING THE RECIPE ALLOWS ME TO BUY 4 WISDOM.
SO I GET A NEGATIVE PAYOUT OF -4.36 WISDOM SCROLLS.

NOW, IF IM BUYING WISDOM SCROLLS WITH ALTERATION SHARDS

IDENTIFY MAGIC ITEMS I END UP WITH A LOSS, unless the wisdom scrolls were for free/dropped/someone I scammed.

WITH RARES, AT WORSE I GET EVEN. AT BEST I GET 50% PROFIT PER RARE.

Unless someone is selling the unidentified magic for transmutation shards for a while, to make transmutation orbs to buy wisdom scrolls with, one run out of identify scrolls for rares/magic items when farming. Farming.

And thats going from waypoint to login screen, without using Portal Scrolls (or after acquiring the Portal Gem).

So yeah, this thread needs a lot of work on averages payout of item types. People cant even help the game improve or provide feedback without finding these truths out and understanding how something that wasnt broken, will be seen as broken.

Before people could just ignore blues, because rares were so much more common due to drop rates and so much more worthy due to recipes and because alteration shards were so less valuable then they are about to become.


So yeah, someone go and analyze the payout of identifying blues and rares based on item types individual payout, drop rates and mod lists available for that item type.

So that I can find out why belts are better to be sold without identifying and things like that, or why boots take precedence over other armor types...