2.1 Talisman League Guide for Cheap Permacurse Dual RF Totems for Hardcore/Softcore -Atziri Viable!

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Thraxeus wrote:

Hey Redius thanks for enjoying the build :)

Here's a few things of note to mention for your tree compared to the one I have used that arnt as obvious straight away but are the reasons for why I chose Scion and pathed as I did.

Your tree has less strength around the best spire of stone jewel socket just above the notable Devotion, which mean which means less %totem life can be gained from that spot. Totem life=increasing the base damage of our DPS skill so it is FAR superior then just getting increased damage modifiers.

---I believe you miscount (but that's cause I put the wrong tree up); I put my Spire of Stone next to Totemic mastery and get a full 8 STR nodes. I don't think you can get 9 with the jewel in the slot you indicate.

You have not taken the keystone Whispers of Doom or curse effectiveness near the Scion life wheel, meaning curses that I use have 30% increased effect.

---I linked the wrong tree, mine does have WoD and the Scion curse cluster

This translates to flammability removing 55% instead of 44% of their fire resistance,
It also causes Vulnerability to make them take 44% not 33% MORE damage from Damage over time effects. (This is because vulnerability is applied to the mobs damage taken value and not your damage increased value, essentially making it a more multiplier)

Which also makes the combo of flam and vuln superior to the combo of flam and elemental weakness by a significant margin on everything but creatures wtih very high fire resistance.

--I hear you, and see your math; I just have found that my clear speeds are better with Flam and Ele weakness over Vuln. Tested over several runs in dried lake (trying to get the most homogenaiety for the testing purposes. These findings also hold through the level 3-7 maps I've been running over the last few days. In addition, GGG has never advertised the max MINUS resists that you can impose on mobs. Given the results I've seen, I'm inclined to note (even though I'm not able to do the math like you have) that a lower resistance figure for mobs is more important than the multiplier on Vulnerability.

As a side note it also makes Enfeeble and Temporal chains a ridiculously strong combo for doing more rippy mad mod combinations.

--I do have both of these leveling as well, and you're right, they're really nice.

How are you running 3 curses btw without whispers of doom? I see your Windscreams but no Deodre's Damning or a +1curse amy so I'm a bit confused ^^

--see the comment above about wrong tree, I'm linking my new one in a spoiler at the bottom

The reason I dont have searing bond in my build is because CWDT-Immortal call is a superior option in my opinion.

--I have really fallen in love with Phase Run instead of CWDT - IC. Not only do I not need to worry about endurance charges, but PR drops agro, so mobs instinctively wander away.

It prevents being shotgunned by physical attacks or spells so greatly increases your survivability. This build most definetly does not lack in the DPS area so the bonus 4ishk damage that searing bond provides is negligible when mob packs should be dead in under 1-2 seconds, which usually means by the time you cast searing totem the pack is dead and you could have just kept running :)

You are right though that it will increase your damage V bosses but not enough to justify the minimum of 2 sockets needed to use it and 3 if you want to see any meaningful damage out of it (Searing bond-blood magic-Burning damage)

Hope that clears up why I made my choices one final thing is the build is made in HC and designed to be map viable for HC so that is why I have made my choices. For SC your more offensivly orientated so I can understand your choices ^^. I would actually recommend grabing a soul mantle and putting your own spell totem in it while running some warding flasks. the 50% totem life is huge when you usually cap out at around 120ish% after jewels and tree is taken into account.

All that aside im glad your enjoying the build and hope you continue to do so! :)

Regards,
Thraxeus.

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Thraxeus wrote:

good stuff and more

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mileysaurus wrote:

Does the damage of the 2 totem stack on say rare/bosses? if you place them in each others radius. Never played RF before >_<