[2.2 Whispering Ice, Lowlife, Pure Unique wearer 1900+ Int, updated]

I did a bunch of maps to try and the clear speed is still the same. But as expected, the boss melting and huge CC is gone.

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Kagari wrote:

I did a bunch of maps to try and the clear speed is still the same. But as expected, the boss melting and huge CC is gone.

Well Asenath's TC on hit coupled with chill got a nerf too. It's actually noticeably weaker now. Sucks but what can you do. I guess they felt Icestorm was too OP.

And if you want to bring it back on par, you kinda have to take Purity of Will, which will cost about 3-5 nodes depending on your build.

I just got 2 shotted by those fucking chiken spikes on a 75 canyon...removed avatar of fire so i have a small chance to freeze those fucking OP mobs...No map drop, big nerf, 10% lost i'm super mad.

@kagari

Whats your gear and gem setup?

How much es? Getting killed on 75 map sounds bad. Lol discouraging my lvling.

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Kagari wrote:

I just got 2 shotted by those fucking chiken spikes on a 75 canyon...removed avatar of fire so i have a small chance to freeze those fucking OP mobs...No map drop, big nerf, 10% lost i'm super mad.

Yeah, but that kind of stuff happened before 2.0.2. I got one shotted last night by that spider boss on a 74 jungle valley. Chaos damage. Then died like 3 more times later by the worst mobs, just trapping me or stun locking me to death.

Can't blame the nerf for that one :p

I'm actually glad I stuck with cold. I don't at all rely on Temporal Chains really and have a 33% chance to freeze, which is pretty much a guaranteed lockdown from the first hit. Give cold a try, the CC is nuts. Yeah, you lose a bit of dps, but having things everywhere suspended in a cloak of ice just can't be beat! Check out my Witch for the build and specs. It actually doesn't deviate too much from fire and you can really use the same gear for both. Just gotta restructure your tree a bit, maybe get some new jewels.

I already removed AoF to freeze more, i have more dps without it as i remove fire pen and use add cold. I won't do atziri for a while as i wanna lvl more so for maps, no penetration is ok.

@lightofeast : same gear as OP except with headhunter belt. 1825 Int and 9K ES.

Hrm with this lvl of gears and still dying shows that the survivability of the build is in bad shape I assumed?

Wonder how's the other CI whispering ice build doing in this patch. Intially wanted to build a char for fun uber but looks like it's not really that possible now?

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lightofeast wrote:

Hrm with this lvl of gears and still dying shows that the survivability of the build is in bad shape I assumed?

Wonder how's the other CI whispering ice build doing in this patch. Intially wanted to build a char for fun uber but looks like it's not really that possible now?

Uber might still be possible no doubt. I died simply because of the crazy map mods we have to run to have the illusion to progress with map pool. Coupled to the fact that those spike on death are not balanced at all for anyone having no armor.

Iam currently trying to build a whispering ice char, and I am saving for a shavs.
Is this build even viable now after the massive nerf in the patch ?
On top of the change to the slow the damage against bosses was nerfed by over 30% with high int
At 1500 int:
1500+2250=3750 vs 700+700*1500/200=6000 = 62,5% of the previous damage. (or missing 60% more)
Thats basicly like removing a support that grants over 50% more damage against high hp enemies. Usually GGG only does nerfs on this scale between actual leagues.

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Droggeltasse wrote:

Iam currently trying to build a whispering ice char, and I am saving for a shavs.
Is this build even viable now after the massive nerf in the patch ?
On top of the change to the slow the damage against bosses was nerfed by over 30% with high int
At 1500 int:
1500+2250=3750 vs 700+700*1500/200=6000 = 62,5% of the previous damage. (or missing 60% more)
Thats basicly like removing a support that grants over 50% more damage against high hp enemies. Usually GGG only does nerfs on this scale between actual leagues.

It's still quite viable. I'm running the no-stun variant tree with AA instead of HoI. Nothing can touch me in maps and still, everything dies in a very fast manner; yes, even bosses. I have not tried Atziri yet, but don't foresee it being a problem. You can cut leech or fire pen for increased duration, or grab the Potency of Will circle to be right where we were (although with a now 6-pt commitment there)

Edit: as a side-note, I use Iron Will, Added Cold, Conc Effect and Inc AOE as swap gems for mapping/bosses/etc.)

Another thing I noticed, you can grab Intuitive Leap for the gem slot near CI and get the 15% MORE ES node