The Hoarder - My Divination Card for 1 Exalted Orb
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Chris already explained that the drop rates are not comparable. He's saying it's like comparing 1000kg to 15000seconds, and without converting those numbers into an equivalent base there is no telling what is fair or not.
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" I don't think there's an easy way to know based purely on those figures. even where it comes to pure currency (as an example), Ex is listed as 1600, Chaos as 48000. If the numbers were straight forward, you could expect to find 1 Exalt for every 30 chaos. My personal experience doesn't correlate to anywhere near that. Last edited by Spanka6663 on Jun 21, 2015, 1:58:07 AM
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" Your repeated argument of 'what Chris said' is nothing but a cop out to avoid debating the topic. Cant you think for yourself instead of replying with 'but Chris said, but Chris said, but Chris said ....' in every post you make? An ex orb is an ex orb. Both certainly are comparable if you do what my sig asks. (b) Personal abuse, foul language, inappropriate subject matter, obscene, harassing, threatening, hateful, or discriminatory or defamatory remarks of any nature ... are not permitted. - PoE TOS. Last edited by bhavv on Jun 21, 2015, 2:38:34 AM
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" Let me teach you a thing or two about using your brains. Do you understand units of measurements? Do you understand what does it mean by numbers are not comparable? Which is more valuable? 1000USD or 200000 Fairyland dollars? You wont know unless you know the relative value of Fairyland dollars to USD. And on comparability, you say The Hoarder card is comparable to an Exalted orb and that they are not different categories of droppable because they give the same item i.e. an Exalted orb. Does this mean you think that divination cards are currencies? So what about cards that gives uniques? Divination cards are items now? What about cards that gives maps? Divination cards are maps now? Divination cards are its own distinct category of droppable in POE. So instead of lambasting that people are not using their brains, realise you have no idea what is going on. It will convert your forum titles into decorative square badges that use the space next to your forum posts more economically so that you can show off an unlimited number of them at any one time. - GGG, 2018 (https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3573673) Last edited by Jerle on Jun 21, 2015, 2:53:59 AM
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Obviously not all divination cards are the same, I am not talking about the overall drop rate on all of them, but to a single one that is directly comparable to an exalted orb because it gives the exact same thing.
The drop rate on each seperate divination card is separate, and yes IMO all divination cards are currencly items because they are going to be used in trading. " Except youre still completely wrong because I am still comparing one ex orb to one ex orb, I.E. 1USD to 1USD. Imagine that you have a 1USD coin, I.E. the ex orb, and 12 notes of which their combined value is equal to 1USD, I.E. the 12 div cards for 1 EX orb.. Those 12 notes / div cards are identical in value to 1USD / EX orb, and should not take significantly more effort to acquire, what part of this are you failing to comprehend? Its simple elementary school level maths. (b) Personal abuse, foul language, inappropriate subject matter, obscene, harassing, threatening, hateful, or discriminatory or defamatory remarks of any nature ... are not permitted. - PoE TOS. Last edited by bhavv on Jun 21, 2015, 3:51:21 AM
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" Please look at all the facts that are available to us at the moment. We have a clear statement of the lead developer that the datamined figures regarding the drop rates of exalted orbs and divination cards are not comparable. Chris even stated that if you would use these numbers in this way, then you would arrive at the conclusion that the drop rate of a Mirror is the same as the drop rate of a scroll of wisdom. This is the linke to that statement: http://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/3aknj2/exalts_from_the_hoarder_divination_card_are_9/ My personal guess is still, that the rarity of the card is similar to that of a vaal orb. | |
" You appear to think orbs and cards are the same item (as in, literally the same item) which they are not. Once you realize that people are simply repeating the correct information to help you get over your ignorance, you'll be better off to participate in the topic. | |
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@Bhavv
The way I see it, it's like this: You are completly right, 1 USD is 1 USD and 1 ex is 1 ex, no matter where you got it from. Let me put it a bit different though: [using your example of 1 USD and 12 notes] To get 1 USD you can either wait X seconds (to see someone drop it or whatever) to get a coin or you can walk Y meters to get a note(to find one on the ground or whatever, doesn't really matter). You can not directly compare X and Y, because they are completly distinct units of measurement. The same is true for the divination card / orb drop. For the card you need to walk, for the orb you need to wait: You can't compare them until you know roughly how many "meters walked" compare to "seconds waited", right?
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At least thats the way I see it, because else it really makes no sense
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Look, I honestly couldnt give a shit about what Chris has said on this topic over on reddit because I dont agree with it in the slightest bit, and I absolutely cannot see how you can go from '1 ex = 1 ex' to '1 mirror = 1 wisdom scroll' as he implied and you all seem to be blindly following, which just sounds like a BS excuse.
And also because as usual he wants to post all his comments on reddit and not here, tbh anything a dev has said on reddit is invalid to me. (b) Personal abuse, foul language, inappropriate subject matter, obscene, harassing, threatening, hateful, or discriminatory or defamatory remarks of any nature ... are not permitted.
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" And I'm talking to you about elementary school reading comprehension. My example of the exchange rate is with regard to the following quote: " I cant think if 2100 compared to 1600 is fair or not unless I know what 2100 means relative to this 1600. I cant just say woah 2100 is so close to 1600 so I should conclude that the div card for ex orb is only slightly more common than the ex orb itself. Gosh. Some people. It will convert your forum titles into decorative square badges that use the space next to your forum posts more economically so that you can show off an unlimited number of them at any one time. - GGG, 2018 (https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3573673)
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