The Hoarder - My Divination Card for 1 Exalted Orb

I already clearly explained that to you.

The chance of getting the full set of 12 divination cards needed for a single exalted orb equals the chance of getting 9 actual exalted orb drops.

(12 / 2100) x 1600 = 9.14.

I.E. Elementary level maths.

Those drop rate figures are datamined from the client and accurate in the current build of the beta, I also hate that GGG's response to this is 'Oh, lets just remove that information entirely so no one can ever find this out again'.

Why exactly are they trying to hide their drop rate figures?

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bhavv wrote:

I already clearly explained that to you.

The chance of getting the full set of 12 divination cards needed for a single exalted orb equals the chance of getting 9 actual exalted orb drops.

(12 / 2100) x 1600 = 9.14.

I.E. Elementary level maths.

Those drop rate figures are datamined from the client and accurate in the current build of the beta, I also hate that GGG's response to this is 'Oh, lets just remove that information entirely so no one can ever find this out again'.

Why exactly are they trying to hide their drop rate figures?

2100 and 1600 are different units of measurement... And its because people like you cannot comprehend that you cannot use figures of different bases to make conclusion like yours that the devs want to remove the info.

Anyway, I stop here. You're clearly too dense to ever understand the concept.

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bhavv wrote:

Look, I honestly couldnt give a shit about what Chris has said on this topic over on reddit because I dont agree with it in the slightest bit, and I absolutely cannot see how you can go from '1 ex = 1 ex' to '1 mirror = 1 wisdom scroll' as he implied and you all seem to be blindly following, which just sounds like a BS excuse.

And also because as usual he wants to post all his comments on reddit and not here, tbh anything a dev has said on reddit is invalid to me.

Just in case you are not (1) trolling or (2) drunk or (3) on drugs: I have never seen chris outright lying to us. Furthermore the validity of his statements is likely to be independent on where it is posted (even if you feel insulted that he rather posts on reddit). Finally, it would make no sense at all if the rarity of the card were similar to the rarity of a exalted orb.

The drop rate figures on that link clearly are following the same scale.

If you compare the figure for chaos / vaal orbs to eternal orbs, I really dont think my analysis of the 2100 to 1600 from the ex orbs and their div cards are wrong.

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Faendris wrote:

Just in case you are not (1) trolling or (2) drunk or (3) on drugs: I have never seen chris outright lying to us. Furthermore the validity of his statements is likely to be independent on where it is posted (even if you feel insulted that he rather posts on reddit). Finally, it would make no sense at all if the rarity of the card were similar to the rarity of a exalted orb.

Feel free to carry on praising and worshipping the devs because you think they would never lie, such as when they promised +2 to all map levels and then went against that and decided to no longer do it?

Even if it makes no sense to you, we can clearly see that the rarity of one ex orb div card is close to the rarity of a whole ex orb.

If Chris isnt lying about this, then why cant he simply make the drop rate information public for everyone to see? Oh right, because he obviously has reasons to keep it hidden.

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bhavv wrote:

(12 / 2100) x 1600 = 9.14.

2100 is in seconds, 1600 in meters.

(12 / 2100sec) x 1600m = 9.14?

Doesn't really make sense (and is not even correct because of the units)

What Jerle is trying to tell you is that the numbers of 2100 and 1600 are not in the same measurement and thus can't be multiplied with each other to just get a number that you then can show around and claim to be the relationship of rarity of the two ways of getting an exalt.

Edit: Same Scale: probably. Doesn't mean that they must be exactly comparable to each other though.

I said same scale, not measurement, in which sense the calculation I gave is correct.

Unless GGG want to tell us exactly how the drop rates will work, then I stand by the information and calculation I posted.

Have fun farming for your ex orb divination cards with it taking 9 ex orbs worth of farming / drops just to get a full set of 12.

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bhavv wrote:

I said same scale, not measurement, in which sense the calculation I gave is correct.

Unless GGG want to tell us exactly how the drop rates will work, then I stand by the information and calculation I posted.

Have fun farming for your ex orb divination cards with it taking 9 ex orbs worth of farming / drops just to get a full set of 12.

I am going to have so much fun referring to this post in the future.

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Faendris wrote:

My personal guess is still, that the rarity of the card is similar to that of a vaal orb.

I only just read this. How can you honestly still believe this when the datamined figures show that a vaal orb has a drop chance of '20,000', compared to '2100' for the ex orb div card?

That doesnt seem anywhere near similar, especially with the comparison of the figures beween the ex orb and ex orb div card.

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Faendris wrote:

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bhavv wrote:

I said same scale, not measurement, in which sense the calculation I gave is correct.

Unless GGG want to tell us exactly how the drop rates will work, then I stand by the information and calculation I posted.

Have fun farming for your ex orb divination cards with it taking 9 ex orbs worth of farming / drops just to get a full set of 12.

I am going to have so much fun referring to this post in the future.

*UNLESS* the data mined drop rates change, my interpretation is correct, while yours that the ex orb div card will drop at the same rate as a vaal orb is just lolno.

Ex orb - 1600
Ex orb div card - 2100
Vaal orb - 20000.

The only way from this that your conclusion could be correct (unless the figures change) is if it means 2100 for the full set of 12 div cards.

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bhavv wrote:

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Faendris wrote:

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bhavv wrote:

I said same scale, not measurement, in which sense the calculation I gave is correct.

Unless GGG want to tell us exactly how the drop rates will work, then I stand by the information and calculation I posted.

Have fun farming for your ex orb divination cards with it taking 9 ex orbs worth of farming / drops just to get a full set of 12.

I am going to have so much fun referring to this post in the future.

*UNLESS* the data mined drop rates change, my interpretation is correct, while yours that the ex orb div card will drop at the same rate as a vaal orb is just lolno.

Ex orb - 1600
Ex orb div card - 2100
Vaal orb - 20000.

The only way from this that your conclusion could be correct (unless the figures change) is if it means 2100 for the full set of 12 div cards.

I am fairly certain that you simply do not understand how drops are calculated. The drop rates of currency items do not have the same meaning as the drop rates of divination cards. This is what Chris explained in his post. This is what everyone else is trying to tell you. Of course, if you think that Chris was lying about that and that everyone but you is wrong, then it makes perfect sense what you are saying.

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