Mechanics thread

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Drusek wrote:

Whats the maximum evasion rating one could get and how much % evaded blows it is?

also curious about this

Since I've been playing TL2 a lot, I'm having some difficulties transitioning to the new mechanics system, so just want to make sure if I'm getting things correctly. I understand that skills are divided between attack and spell and the first scale of weapon damage while others are independent, but there are still some things regarding passives that are puzzling me.

Let's say I have the following setup:
- weapon that does 100 physical damage and 50 cold damage
- passive +10% increased Melee physical damage
- passive +20% increased Elemental damage
- melee skill that adds 30% of damage as cold damage

What would be the final damage output of this skill?

Is it: 100phy x(1+0,1) + 50cold x (1+0,2) + (1,2 x(0,3 x (100phy x(1+0,1)))?

Thanks for the explanation.

Just one more question, how does equipment come in play with spells? If a weapon has 'adds 100 cold damage' is that calculated in the damage of the spell (I would guess no)? And if it's on a ring, does it get calculated in the damage of the spell (I would guess yes)?

+10% increased spell damage on a weapon I would guess applies to the spell damage?

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Odoakar wrote:

Thanks for the explanation.

Just one more question, how does equipment come in play with spells? If a weapon has 'adds 100 cold damage' is that calculated in the damage of the spell (I would guess no)? And if it's on a ring, does it get calculated in the damage of the spell (I would guess yes)?

+10% increased spell damage on a weapon I would guess applies to the spell damage?

No, no, yes.

Hmm, never would have thought so, at first glance it would seem natural for all the +damage from items to be added to the final damage output, be it spell or attack. Good to know. When a skill says 'Deals 125% of Base Damage', does it calculate item integer bonuses as the base damage?

Another thing, I've been looking at skills that do converted damage, and as I can see they benefit both from % Increased Physical Damage and % Increased Elemental Damage, but it seems it's better to invest in Physical damage passives as they affect both physical and elemental damage, while the second only buffs elemental damage.

Is there any difference between "blue" elite mobs and "yellow" elite mobs in terms of drop chances? Or are those 2 different elite types just there for the sake of diversion? thanks.

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exorzist wrote:

Is there any difference between "blue" elite mobs and "yellow" elite mobs in terms of drop chances? Or are those 2 different elite types just there for the sake of diversion? thanks.

AFAIK the drop chances are the same, but item levels from blue mobs is the instance mob level + 1 and yellow mobs are mob level + 2

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Drusek wrote:

Whats the maximum evasion rating one could get and how much % evaded blows it is?

This question is almost impossible to answer, because it depends so much on many different variables.

- itemization
- build
- how much dex you have
- shielded or not?

These things all play into what your maximum evasion rating can be. As to what your percent chance to evade is, that still depends on mob accuracy which changes depending on which mobs you're fighting.

Anyway, if you itemize everything with max rolls on +%ev/+ev mods your maximum BASE values are:
Base EV: 260 @ level 70
Grace: 1200
Armour and accessories: 6900
Shield: 2k

If you have 400 dex, 100% incr evasion rating from passives, 6 frenzy charges, an amulet with %incr evasion rating, and a little +%shield defense.... The ceiling on total evasion rating is well over 30k after bonuses. That'd represent around 65% chance to evade in most situations, but it's likely nobody will ever get that high.

cheers.

Is this a correct calculation for how damage modifiers apply to skill Lightning strike (converts 50% of physical damage to lightning damage)?



My weapon has 1000 phys and I have total 100 added lightning damage (from weapon and rings for example). As I see it, melee bonus will boost base physical (it's not 30%, but 46%, that's an error in image), which then gets divided into 50% phy and 50% light, and then 100 lightning is added.

With WED, base physical is not boosted, but applied lightning is (50% of base damage (500) + 100 added, all multiplied with 1,78).

I'm trying to determine whether it is better to use Melee support skill or Weapon elemental damage, and so far it seems if my base damage is pure pysical, then melee support is better, but if my lightning damage from weapon or added through items is more than 10% of total physical damage, then it's better to go with WED.