[2.0.0] Kaom's Legacy : How to Cyclone - (30C Atziri Build - Indepth Guide for Beginners)

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There seems to be a drastic change in the passive tree moving from Cruel A4 to Marc 1/2. I am pretty confused as to which tree to follow.

I have a similar question--the guide mentions not taking the blood magic keystone until about merciless, but the tree has you taking it at level 35-40.

When should I look to take the node?

Thanks for pointing it out. I am on Vacation right now and cant fix it from my phone. Will fix it at the end of the week when I am back home.


It was pretty exhausting to change things around, especially because poebuilder isn't updated.

If you want a finished tree to follow just open the last link in the beginner / expert guide and take nodes you think you need the most, can't help more right now (sorry).

Great discussion thread! Great gear! Now try doing this from the Shadow side of the tree >_<

PS: I use PoeSkillTree.exe: https://github.com/EmmittJ/PoESkillTree/releases

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Vincendra wrote:

Thanks for pointing it out. I am on Vacation right now and cant fix it from my phone. Will fix it at the end of the week when I am back home.


It was pretty exhausting to change things around, especially because poebuilder isn't updated.

If you want a finished tree to follow just open the last link in the beginner / expert guide and take nodes you think you need the most, can't help more right now (sorry).

Hey, Hope the vacation is going well.

So I looked at how many respecs it would to alter the tree to get me to yours. I think the most efficient path I found needed 29 to look identical. The largest amount coming from getting rid of the run to Sentinel. I'll post my current tree and see if anyone/you have any suggestions on what I should do.

Maybe I should just re-roll?

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwEAxthYYz38xFj2SF8_FCDvDlBH5FEaPvIvajtqHhzn0iFXDdlhrY3Pfnas6hj3MnzZcqnE9n31xBWvpxzOK1ANzf5UPQ98uzrYJy-QVRo47DiCm5o7n9_vfDwFwGYEs6IAxq48LYPMtz7-Cti9NZK18m6qSsiKr5ARguR4DcAaqW534wHchNlHfr02WK826IZgYVLFU9wySHgFPO9OXhOS0BLhouplTb6n

Cheers,


**Edit* I could make it look like this with only 13 respecs

https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwEBxthYYz38xFj2SF8_FCDvDlBH5FEaPvIvajtqHhzn0iFXDdlhrY3Pfnas6hj3MnzZcqnE9n31xBWCm5o7n9_vfDwFwGYEs6IAxq48LYPMtz7-Cti9NZK18m6qSsiKr5ARguR4DcAaqW534wHchNlHfr02WK826IZgYVLFU9wySHgFPO9OXhOS0BLhour46xRxDjzfv_AfaPKvbAthhO-pJ3h6qZSHattP4MMlvECgIWB08SmlZU2-pw==

Guys, sorry if someone else asked this, but CwDT/EC doesnt work now,right? what am i suposed to do? cyclone,cyclone, ec, cyclone?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kj4gnWP5s-g




Why use fortify at all? It's like increased and not more dmg....

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sklipnoty wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kj4gnWP5s-g

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Why use fortify at all? It's like increased and not more dmg....

Because you do not want to die at all in HC and not after lvl 88~ in SC.

counterquestion: Why would you use FA when this guide explicitley explains why FA is not strictly needed?

I feel like I'm missing something--is the only way to get endurance charges ECoMS? And if so is that worth it (not questioning your judgement, just new to melee builds)?

My update for this build:



LGoH fully buffed dps (3 frenzy, promise flask): 35K (not using MPD)

MPD fully buffed dps: (3 frenzy, promise flask): 53K (not using LGoH)


Defense:

Base: 39% phys. reduction, 456 life regen

6 endurance: 63% phys. reduction, 528 life regen

Not sure what fortify gives on leap slam: it doesn't show on defence tab?

Fully buffed with either jade or granite flask: 90% phys. reduction

6.1K Life

Tree build at lvl 90:

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwEABLMFLQd1CZYLYQxfDc0OPBLhE0wTyRQgFE0UcRfhGJEcpxzOIVUhYCb4JyAppStQLPsxnjWSOQ46UjrhPAU8LUCgRJ5Hfk3jTjJQR1OlU7teE18_YSFhUmRSZU1lp2jycql07XTxdn92rHh6eu97jHzZfuCCB4Nfg8yExITZhO-FUoZgiiKRzpLQl3meV5_fogCi6qZXqSeplK2NrlCvbK-ntz677byfvTa-p8BmwKbE9sauz37Yvdlh2XzcPeRR6hjrCe8O707vfPAf8kHyRfcy-Ov8S_4K_lT-a_6P


I do not use blood magic keystone. Also, giving up slaughter node (onslaught buff), I lost about 7K dps fully buffed (was 60K+ dps before) but I gave up a little dps for better defence with iron reflexes.

Movement speed: 50%, just nice for clearing maps and moving around faster

Attack speed: 2.4 (normal) 2.7 (3 frenzy charges)


Jewel used is Brute Force Solution (str. nodes turned into int.) in order to use CE and IAoE

Skill effect radius modifier: 42%

1% life leeched from physical attacks (.6 from gear, .4 from splitting strikes node)


Endurance charges come easy from both leap slam and/or vengeance. While added fire damage is a nice boost, it does not make up for the dps loss by not using hatred and HoA. The difference isn't huge but still; if you don't have to use it and can still obtain 50K+, why bother. In other words, blood magic keystone you will lose dps at the cost of not having to use the blood magic gem. But if your dps is better anyway without it then why go for it. There is more than enough mana to cast blood rage, golem and leap slam at will.

I would only consider the BM keystone if your having trouble breaking 6K life.


Not really a map this guy can't do

Good luck

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phrzn wrote:

I feel like I'm missing something--is the only way to get endurance charges ECoMS? And if so is that worth it (not questioning your judgement, just new to melee builds)?

You use ECOMS on a 5l and you cna selfcast EC between spins.