[2.0.0] Kaom's Legacy : How to Cyclone - (30C Atziri Build - Indepth Guide for Beginners)

GUIDE LAST UPDATED: 08.08.2015



Change Log:
12.1.15: Atziri Vid added, gear updated.
14.1.15: Updated Possible outcome section
23.1.15: UBER Atziri "guidelines" added to Atziri post.
04.2.15: Gear Updated, Endgame tree added.
26.7.15: Updated for Awekening (still some things missing).
08.8.15: Updated Tree again back to POEbuilder.
19.8.15: Added 2.0.0 Gear I use.
20.8.15: Atziri Vid 2.0.1 added.


TL:DR: THIS BUILD BROUGHT ME THROUGH 78 MAPS AND FAMRED ATZIRI WITH A 30 CHAOS BUDGET on 1.3.0. WITH 2.0.0 THIS BUILD IS STILL VIABLE, ALTHOUGH NOT SO FACEROLL ANYMORE.

Welcome to this Guide. I will try to guide you through my perspective of how to use Cyclone optimally and hereby I want to show that Melee is still a viable and fun option.

I'll try to show several ways to acomplish a viable and stable Cyclonebuild for Beginners and Advanced POE players.

Table of Content.

• 1.) Introduction
• 2.) Skilltree and Progression
• 3.) Gearing Options
• 4.) Skillgem Options
• 5.) Possible Outcome (My Cyclone Mara on Torment)
• 6.) Video Section

1.Introduction

Let's begin with a quote of the 1.3.0 patch,in which Cyclone got a rather big overhaul:

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Chris wrote:

Active Skill Balance:

• Cyclone now attacks slightly slower and has an equivalent increase to damage. It now deals damage immediately when it is used, in addition to periodic damage. Cyclone no longer targets enemies, only locations.

Let's read the BOLD partin the quote first, then the skill description on the gem.

"Damage enemies around you, then perform a spinning series of attacks as you travel to a target location"

Now what does that mean? To give you a picture, you are a moving Shockwave totem. The second you press your Cycloneskill-button, you instantly deal your cyclone damage in an AOE around you, and then keep repeating that damage based on your attack speed while you are moving. (The more attackspeed, the faster the next "pulse" is coming out.

So we basically got 2 options to scale the Attack Rate of Cyclone:

• 1.) Via Attackspeed. The more attackspeed, the faster we pulsate.
• 2.) Via "Castspeed" of the Cyclone Attack. The more often we "cast" Cyclone, the more often we do the instant first pulse of cyclone.

We will take option number 2.) and I will explain what I mean by "Castspeed":

We will not take castpeed nodes nor use any castspeed. Cyclone works this way:
1.)You press your Cyclone button "casting" cyclone -->
2.)You move from A to B pulsating -->
3.)You can "cast" Cyclone again.

Now that means the faster we move, the more often we can "cast" Cyclone again, the more often we do the instantanious first pulse of Cyclone, the more Damage Per Second we do.


HOW TO USE CYCLONE: This all means you need to lead your mouspointer as close as possible to your caracter, so you can start -> finish cyclone as fast as possible, giving more "casts" per second and therefore more DPS!

As of 2.0.0, Cyclone got changed a little to not overlap as fast as it could in 1.3.0. It still functions the same way, but you will zig-zag more often, since the minimum travel distance got fixed.


IN MY 2ND POST I WILL TRY TO EXPLAIN THIS WITH PICTURES!

Yes, we scale our DPS out of Movementspeed. AWESOME! So without further ado, let's get started with the Skilltree.


2.) Skilltree and Progression



Beginners Skilltree, new league or new to the game, not much Currency for gear.




Endgame Gearing Skilltree:



Why going for BM Keystone and forgoing auras:




3.) Gearing Options


4.)Skillgem Options





5.) Possible Outcome




Started with pretty much 0 and just farmed my way up with MF gear at piety/dom/ pre70 maps. Had the luck to find a Binos / Kaoms heart with financed my 6L armor.



One last Sentence to DPS vs Damage.

As you see in the OFFENCE Screenshot, the DPS from the tooltip takes into consideration that I pulse every 0.8 seconds (1.2 Attackspeed).

Truth is though, that "cast" cyclone 4-8 times per second (every 0.25 - 0.12Seconds)depending on your movementspeed, which would be the same as having 4.0 - 8.0 Attackspeed. So my true DPS is the average of 8255- 13618 (11000 ~) and take that *4 to *8.

So my true DPS is between 44k - 88k (66k~ avarege)

I did Atziri as soon as my Purity of Fire hit +3 max with a 5L setup and have her "on farm" since then. Back then my gear costed around 30C ~.



All in all, this build is ultrafun to play and is very stable with around 6k~ Life at 88 atm.
I will try to keep this build up to date and will edit when needed.

6.) Video Section (update soon)

ATM im running POE on a 6 year old machine on Vista with a 32Bit system. I have problems keeping the game running.
I managed to take a Vid, had some FPS problems. It's viewable albeit not too good. The FPS drops through the cam also had influence on my gameplay. Nonetheless maybe usefull:

Setup: Cyclone . Melee phys - Conc. - inc.AOE - BM - ECOMS (would have been faster if I did swap in WED, but i forgot to :/, this is pretty much 5L dmg )




Maybe I'll add some more maps, depends on the quality.

There are 2 different ways to use cyclone, as discribed. The next 2 pictures will describe those 2 ways:

Beforehand, we add a fictive character using Kaoms primacy with 0 attackspeed allocated anywhere (1.0 attacks/ second), which takes 4 seconds to get from point A to point B.







We are using method 2. It costs more Life/second to cast, but we dont need any attackspeed for it.I hope those 2 pictures make it clearer on how to use cyclone in this case.

Video added in the first post!


Trash should be no Problem at all.

• Double Vaal:

Start Cycloning at the first one until the 2nd one comes up. With a 5 L and Kaoms you should at least 1/2 health (sometimes you get him to 1/4th) him when he goes underground.

Then you go to the other one and start spinning. If you time it correctly you get him to 1/4th to 1/2 too when he goes underground within 5-6 seconds.

The 2nd will emerge, kill it. 2nd emerging, just spin him over. If you run under 5k HP, get a Topaz flask up beforehand and spam it for the 2nd one in case he spams you with BL.

• Trio

Hard to describe but ill try.



I start with Enfeebling all of them for - 25% damage. With 6k Health and ~650 reg and Flasks
you should not die.

I try to kite them into the upper left corner of the room and kill the first 2 there. Starting with the Stinger-Bitch, I try to kill her off as far top left as I can kite her. Mostly she doesnt walk too far into the corner, bc she is ranged. If she is near the Pillar its good enough.

Renew Enfeeble on the other 2.

Get the Dualstriker next. Try to get him into the top left corner IF there is space else kite him to the left or left bottom side of the room and kill him there.

Renew Enfeeble on the cycloner.

PAY ATTENTION to your debuff bar. If you got Corrupted blood, take a sip of your remove bleeding flask. MOST IMPORTANT. IF you run out of Bleeding Flasks, renew on thrash mobs while kiting.

If you don the killing of the last 2 right, you get half the room on the right side to fight the cycloner.

Dont stand in his cyclone path desecrate. Kite him until he uses cyclone, then kite him so you can cyclone around him. He dies in 4-5 sec like the rest once you can cyclone on him.

• Atziri

Exchange Vitality for Purity of Fire be4 the fight.

1st thing you do is when u get in: Enfeeble, then chug your "immune to Curse" flask and start spinning on her.

You can facetank the small flameblasts (doing ~2,5 -3k on 79 fres) and the big flameblasts if you got +6k life. I DONT RECOMEND TANKING THEM. TRY TO AVOID THEM.

Stormcalls do 2k~ per call (4k for enhanced calls), so dont take more then 2 if possible. Stormcall phase is the best time to spin on her. I can get her to the next phase in 1 stormcall.

CARE ON THE ENFEEBLE CURSE. RENEW IF ITS RUNNING OUT, EVEN IF YOU DONT HAVE ANY CURSEREMOVE LEFT.

Addphase should be no problem, just spin them down.

Splitphase: I take the southern west part of the map(where you enter, bottom one)and spin that down, if its not the mirror one. I take the North west (left) one. Try to enfeeble the stormcaller (holding blue scepter) and the flameblaster (glowing red hands).

On the southern part of the map you got the most space to dodge blasts/ calls.

She periodically casts flameblast on your location, so you drop them off away from her then cyclone on her. rinse/repeat.




Uber Atziri Tactics:




Trashmobs!:

Selfcast EC/IC before every pack. Vaal constructs do physical, so you can (AND NEED TO) have phys immunity to survive trash mobs. Do not use CWDT/EC at trash, it takes your Spellecho/EC cooldown.

Doublevaals!:

Same as normal doubles. Take a Topas flask with shock removing for bad placed lightningballs/shocklazers.

I also equipped 80 life/40 int/res gloves with Hatred-HoA-PoLightning-Redmana for this fight.

Trio!:

"Easiest" of the bosses. Kite them until you got 7 end charges, hit IC.

1.) Be aware of the buff of the Dualstriker. If he glows red, you run. Period.

2.)Kill the cycloner first in a Corner.

3.)Kill the dualstriker 2nd in another corner, possible as near to cycloner death as possible. Be aware of 1.)

4.) Keep running and ECing, with all the adds, 1 spellecho should get you 7 charges. IC on -> cyclone the bitch. Dont forget casting EC during your running IC, so you can recast.

Atziri!:

You can survive 1 blast OR 1 Stormcall / or 1 spear. 2 of them -> dead. Splitphase is a bitch. Hope and pray to RNGesus you get the southern part of the map to dodge spells (most space).


My progress:

I had her in the 3rd splitphase with 2 portals left. (Died 2 times to Vaals stunlocking me with lazers, 1 time trash (not renewing IC for 3 mobs --> dont be lazy) and 1 time bc I did not follow 1.)! at the Trio. I could have had 2 portals more at least IF I wasnt that bad.

Anyways, I got 2 bad stormcalls I couldnt dodge in splitphase 3 and pretty much ended the run there. I will get her next time.

Damage is not a problem, survivability is not a Problem. RNG might fuck you up, but Uber is doable (although farming UBER with that build might still be not too viable. There are better uber killers out there for sure. Point is: You can do her.)

Lol nice guide ill try it soon

This is awesome. Deserves a link in cyclone guides everywhere. Newbies to cyclone will find this very helpful in understanding the usage of cyclone.

One thing though, don't underestimate the power of attack speed with cyclone, at least for mob clearing. I have found that when you have too much move speed(40%+ base) combined with the constant quicksilver that i use while cycloning, it's possible to move through mobs without hitting them even once.

Of course, this is far more noticeable at really high levels of dps(crit 70k+). When damage is that high, its more convenient to take slightly longer paths and go straight through the center of a pack, allowing HoA prolif to kill everything at the side. And when you aren't constantly changing path as much, that's when a high attack speed comes into play. Also, high attack speed is awesome with lgoh.

So all I'm basically trying to say is that scaling both attack speed and movement speed is very important. Will link this in my WoE BoR cyclone thread :)

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Etherfire wrote:

This is awesome. Deserves a link in cyclone guides everywhere. Newbies to cyclone will find this very helpful in understanding the usage of cyclone.

One thing though, don't underestimate the power of attack speed with cyclone, at least for mob clearing. I have found that when you have too much move speed(40%+ base) combined with the constant quicksilver that i use while cycloning, it's possible to move through mobs without hitting them even once.

Of course, this is far more noticeable at really high levels of dps(crit 70k+). When damage is that high, its more convenient to take slightly longer paths and go straight through the center of a pack, allowing HoA prolif to kill everything at the side. And when you aren't constantly changing path as much, that's when a high attack speed comes into play. Also, high attack speed is awesome with lgoh.

So all I'm basically trying to say is that scaling both attack speed and movement speed is very important. Will link this in my WoE BoR cyclone thread :)

Let me quote myself:

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Vincendra wrote:

HOW TO USE CYCLONE: This all means you need to lead your mouspointer as close as possible to your caracter, so you can start -> finish cyclone as fast as possible, giving more "casts" per second and therefore more DPS![/u]

I underlined the improtant part. You are right if you POINT your MOUSE at far away from your character at the edge of the screen screen.

That s why I wrote my quoted line. If you put your mousepointer right next to your character, you will "cast" cyyclone every step you taken and therefore "pulsate" your Cyclone damage every step you make.

This ofcours means more Manacost of Cyclone or in this case, more Lifecoste since BM is used. That is why I run 10% Lifereg to sustain my Cyclonecost.



If you use cylcone on longer distances, Attackspeed is MORE important then Moevementspeed or anything else, since you leave your "pulssating" to the attackspeedmodifier.

I might try to get a tutorial vid up, but this might be hard with my computer.

How is your setup to run Atziri? Do you replace Vitality with Purity of Fire? Do you self cast IC on trio? It would be nice if you could give us a rundown on your strategy. To be able to farm Atziri consistently is an end game objective for many of us.

What I'm saying is that when you are playing something like say DW crit cyclone then you need to reach a sort of happy medium between both attack speed and move speed. Pointing cyclone to the edge of the screen is something I haven't done since I was a total newbie.

I do agree with you that damage peer hit is the most important stat for cyclone, which makes crit cyclone super powerful and also suicidal to reflect.

Edit: now that I look at your pictures, your cyclone path seems just like what I've been doing all this time :)

About time someone else realizes that movespeed cyclone > attack speed cyclone in 1.3. Though I do think MS cyclone is more suited for either crit staff/crit rapiers/ or RT with facebreakers.

Crit versions (staff or rapier) get very high dps and provide extremely high life leech with vaal pact (until you get atziri gloves, then you can benefit from both regen and instant leech) as long as you don't desync while still providing very good defenses but they are very costly to gear. Facebreakers are slightly costly to gear but will get ALOT more damage than other 2 handed RT MS cyclone builds with less investment in damage, meaning it is much more defensive as well than compared to going 2handed.

Also you should consider these as a cheap option:



Anti-chill helps a lot for this build, also gives very nice cold resists, it's cheap to buy for what it provides (doesn't work against dominus totems tho). This armor will last a long time for beginners till they get better gear. On my chest you'll notice I put reckoning there instead of something like increased aoe because it saves mana cost and when it procs I get full life back due to vaal pact and HoA will kill everything else around you (solo or duo) with the proliferated overkill dmg.

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lussiano wrote:

How is your setup to run Atziri? Do you replace Vitality with Purity of Fire? Do you self cast IC on trio? It would be nice if you could give us a rundown on your strategy. To be able to farm Atziri consistently is an end game objective for many of us.

Will add a Atziri Section on my 3rd Post.

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SIQI wrote:

About time someone else realizes that movespeed cyclone > attack speed cyclone in 1.3. Though I do think MS cyclone is more suited for either crit staff/crit rapiers/ or RT with facebreakers.

Crit versions (staff or rapier) get very high dps and provide extremely high life leech with vaal pact (until you get atziri gloves, then you can benefit from both regen and instant leech) as long as you don't desync while still providing very good defenses but they are very costly to gear. Facebreakers are slightly costly to gear but will get ALOT more damage than other 2 handed RT MS cyclone builds with less investment in damage, meaning it is much more defensive as well than compared to going 2handed.

Also you should consider these as a cheap option:

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Anti-chill helps a lot for this build, also gives very nice cold resists, it's cheap to buy for what it provides (doesn't work against dominus totems tho). This armor will last a long time for beginners till they get better gear. On my chest you'll notice I put reckoning there instead of something like increased aoe because it saves mana cost and when it procs I get full life back due to vaal pact and HoA will kill everything else around you (solo or duo) with the proliferated overkill dmg.

Noted and added.