So i did the first Uber atziri as 2h melee[recorded it], my feedback.

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Moosifer wrote:
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VictorDoom wrote:
i know the max rez tricks but i dont like them, sacrificing so much life means potentially getting 2 shot by her spears, and if i mess up my flasks im dead for sure, i do tend to mess up my flasks
Basically id have like 86% fire resistance normally and like 6k life? Kind of the same thing apart from making spears more dangerous

Im getting to level 100 now and stacking movement speed to dodge the damage, thats the best way to do it on a 2h char, high movement speed, i will be at around 56% movement speed without flasks. (17% from tree, got a atziris step corrupted with 4% movespeed and master craft belt with 5%, with 30% from boots, i also got a +1 level atziris step i corrupted yesterday butd i think the 4% movespeed is better)


Well in fairness don't complain about it 2hers being ineffective while avoiding the more effective option. I think your DPS is fine and going the route of physical avoiding damage lowers your eDPS but raising your res will allow you stand a bang longer, but like you said gotta watch the spears which means having to self cast IC during the fight with her.

I think with some adjustments it could be a much easier fight, lower your sheet dps for edps and much higher defenses.


Thats the thing, im not even sure if you can get it to that high rez while keeping a decent health pool
and the +1 max rez amulet and kaoms is a bit of a stretch to be honest, im not that rich.

Self cast IC doesnt work in that fight, not enough time to do it and no way to get a decent amount of charges.
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raics wrote:
For instance, if you strike a monkey or one of those tiny ursas with a maul and hit an armored part the armor will protect it
If you strike a monkey with a maul it should just splash under the maul :)


Of course, if you did an overhead swing, the maul was big enough and the monkey small enough :)
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Last edited by raics#7540 on Nov 7, 2014, 4:46:48 AM
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VictorDoom wrote:
Thats the thing, im not even sure if you can get it to that high rez while keeping a decent health pool
and the +1 max rez amulet and kaoms is a bit of a stretch to be honest, im not that rich.

Self cast IC doesnt work in that fight, not enough time to do it and no way to get a decent amount of charges.


Like I said, on your side of the tree, with some pretty drastic changes you could get to 97%. The ammy isn't too bad, I got mine for 8 ex



On rampage, so standard might have additional/better options or you could just spam ammys with 1-3 stats you want until you get one. I wouldn't advise that, I spend 150c and 40 vaal orbs buying almost every ammy on xyz from people online during an 8 hour period and didn't get max res corrupted on any.

+1 max kaoms and ammy would just be the things to put you to 98-99% But that drops those 8k flameblasts down to ~1k-4k making it much easier to recover.

Also EC + spell echo gives you 2 charges off atziri. So w/ a 20/21 IC + 20/21 inc dur you have just under 4 second IC. Also my roommate and I were running the numbers for my build because those spears hurt more when you don't have 8k life. We found that a granite helped quite a bit, although I use lightning coil w/ 99% light res so that's 40% off the top ofc.

And also, don't blame user error on the build type. Go run normal atziri until you master you're flasks stupid!
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Moosifer wrote:
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VictorDoom wrote:
Thats the thing, im not even sure if you can get it to that high rez while keeping a decent health pool
and the +1 max rez amulet and kaoms is a bit of a stretch to be honest, im not that rich.

Self cast IC doesnt work in that fight, not enough time to do it and no way to get a decent amount of charges.


Like I said, on your side of the tree, with some pretty drastic changes you could get to 97%. The ammy isn't too bad, I got mine for 8 ex



On rampage, so standard might have additional/better options or you could just spam ammys with 1-3 stats you want until you get one. I wouldn't advise that, I spend 150c and 40 vaal orbs buying almost every ammy on xyz from people online during an 8 hour period and didn't get max res corrupted on any.

+1 max kaoms and ammy would just be the things to put you to 98-99% But that drops those 8k flameblasts down to ~1k-4k making it much easier to recover.

Also EC + spell echo gives you 2 charges off atziri. So w/ a 20/21 IC + 20/21 inc dur you have just under 4 second IC. Also my roommate and I were running the numbers for my build because those spears hurt more when you don't have 8k life. We found that a granite helped quite a bit, although I use lightning coil w/ 99% light res so that's 40% off the top ofc.

And also, don't blame user error on the build type. Go run normal atziri until you master you're flasks stupid!


Acutally never mind, you can get enough life, but im not sure theres enough buff effect, what do you reckon:
Should still be 8.5k+ life with leg kaoms but less movement speed than planned

I'm gonna keep buying some kaoms to corrupt till i get to 100
got trolled on my first one:


anyway, i cant manage the flasks cause i cant pay attention to everything at once, but ill get the hang of it at some point or at least get lucky
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Last edited by VictorDoom#6290 on Nov 7, 2014, 5:06:50 AM
First is your goal ONLY uber or are you planning for a map friendly build as well? My first opinion would be do all your mapping then prep for uber as what you need in normal play is vastly different than for uber. Stuff like guile is useless for uber runs but amazing for maps, in fact most of your pathing on the dex side of the tree would be best for mapping rather than uber. If your goal is 100, I say get 100 then respec into a build designed for nothing but uber.

To get 9% res you need all the buffs besides the 12% by BM, that actually might be able to put you at 10% but I've never made a build that was able to get all of them and still function. Then again I've never had access to mirrored items after my 6l coil and that ammy the price of every item I'm wearing goes down drastically, I could probably sell my vagan dagger for 5-10 ex but they still aren't that popular yet. Acc really doesn't get the attention it deserves, especially in CoC builds.

With the flasks it's pretty easy once you figure out the process. If you don't already, get all surgeon flasks as you're a high crit build. See how quickly they refill when in constant combat, lower your damage quite a bit and do normal atziri, and track how fast they refill. My only experience with this is on CoC, with the spells factored in my flasks refill almost instantly. But just time it, flasks last for 5 seconds, see if they refill, reliably often, within that time span.

If they do all you have to do is watch your buffs in the top left. You can see your life while looking and because with the high max res you don't have to worry about the individual attacks, they are all the same, just watch the buffs, when they drop reup. It also works for IC, you get about 4 seconds on it so every 3 seconds, EC then IC, that takes about 1-2 seconds reup the flasks while you get back into combat. The trick is timing them so you don't waste a charge as she's going into the split phase, as dealing with all the incoming damage while hoping to get your flasks up can be quite scary. I also have one eternal flask that's surgeons for constant regen, I'm also using RF so with the flask up and ruby on I have 1k passive regen going non-stop. My last flask is a seething just for oh shit moments as the other 4 can carry me through normal shit, a rogue crit from a spear can make me soil my panties.

But that's really the key, understanding how long your buff lasts compared to how quickly you can put them back up. I might even suggest using magnate if you aren't charging your flasks fast enough, but I'm unsure if that scales with surgeons...

Man, you really should talk to me when you get into this new ground theorycrafting shit. We usually only shoot the shit but I'm a great guy to bounce more advanced ideas off of because I'm always trying off the wall shit.

edit: and for exacts on the purities, assuming lvl 23 purities (min lvl for 5% max) you have 68% increase (between aura and general buff) which would be 8.4% which would be rounded to 8, so you could drop 8% aura increases to have the same amount, not sure if that's possible tree wise, but is math wise. And if you get 12% more you'd get 9% max, again, pure math, no idea what to do on tree. I haven't looked closely at what your tree looks like because it seems like a divided focus. Also I really don't think the flask nodes are optional, that's 3% max right there, every 1% max res cuts 1k damage off that flameblast you took, think hard on that.
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Last edited by Moosifer#0314 on Nov 7, 2014, 9:38:30 AM
killed her with 2h staff

i attempted her before with 2h axe used up all 6 portals

first attempt with staff killed her

died 2x to stupid blood rage mistake and 1x to just charging the vaal vacuum lightning balls without flasks forgot about it and caught me by suprise

trying to upload video but i have to verify on youtube



friend did it for me since dont have my phone atm to "youtube verify"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LteHadj2_t0&feature=youtu.be

looking back such stupid deaths lol

ill post a deathless one i think i can do it since itll be 2nd attempt with this set-up
Last edited by Pepock#6039 on Nov 9, 2014, 2:09:05 PM
alright did a deathless uber run

2h is still just risky as hell and this is considering i have complete bis gear

heres the vids

part 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojcRwURVPDY

part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktoZjJ5WRBA

stream died after vaal kill so its cut up into 2 parts

i still dont believe their "testers" were able to kill uber without use of gg gear
(anyone have a link to the post saying the testers were able to do it? specifically stating uber)
Last edited by Pepock#6039 on Nov 9, 2014, 2:57:01 PM
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Pepock wrote:
alright did a deathless uber run

2h is still just risky as hell and this is considering i have complete bis gear

heres the vids

part 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojcRwURVPDY

part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktoZjJ5WRBA

stream died after vaal kill so its cut up into 2 parts

i still dont believe their "testers" were able to kill uber without use of gg gear
(anyone have a link to the post saying the testers were able to do it? specifically stating uber)


good job mate!Of course its risky since there is no damage mitigation at all, and you pretty much need to use mirrored crit staff+acuities+leg kaoms combo to do it.

I gotta get 1 more level and im gonna start farming ubers on my duelist and hope for some acuities to get rich

Theere is no post, its from a series of PMs between me and design about the unique im making and i asked them about ubers and how did their testers do it, thats what they told me, i honestly still have kind of hard time believing they did it with no legacy/BiS gear.
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Last edited by VictorDoom#6290 on Nov 9, 2014, 3:29:38 PM
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VictorDoom wrote:
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Pepock wrote:
alright did a deathless uber run

2h is still just risky as hell and this is considering i have complete bis gear

heres the vids

part 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojcRwURVPDY

part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktoZjJ5WRBA

stream died after vaal kill so its cut up into 2 parts

i still dont believe their "testers" were able to kill uber without use of gg gear
(anyone have a link to the post saying the testers were able to do it? specifically stating uber)


good job mate!Of course its risky since there is no damage mitigation at all, and you pretty much need to use mirrored crit staff+acuities+leg kaoms combo to do it.

I gotta get 1 more level and im gonna start farming ubers on my duelist and hope for some acuities to get rich

Theere is no post, its from a series of PMs between me and design about the unique im making and i asked them about ubers and how did their testers do it, thats what they told me, i honestly still have kind of hard time believing they did it with no legacy/BiS gear.


i highly doubt that as well

also frankly farming uber is not a way to get profit anymore considering the new rarity gate of gloves

so if your doing it just to do it thats cool but doing uber sets now you have to expect a loss
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