The Herald of Ash : A Physical Bow Build

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gloobonious wrote:

no ;o) but you can prolif the AoE from Herold of Ice, if i switch bows and leech i can turn it on. used them both with my

but wasted too many colours (that part sucks on a pure eva item) and i need a far better bow :-/
those harbingers are so damn expensive...

This build doesn't run Herald of Ice. Herald of Ice has no critical strike chance. It won't proliferate anything unless you use +% chance to freeze mods or Assassin's mark for the +% to critical strike. Even with about +40% increased area of effect, the shatter effect from Herald of Ice is only about the size of an unmodified Cold Snap. I really don't see how you're going to freeze full screens with Herald of Ice.

About the Conc Effect;
so Ice Shot has the initial hit and then there's the cone. Conc Effect only affects the cone and that doesn't show on tooltip dps.

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Ice Shot

Fires an arrow that converts some physical damage to cold on its target and converts all physical damage to cold in a cone behind that target. Creates a patch of ground ice under the target.

Can we assume that it's the cone that does the job here? I tested with Conc as 5th link but wasn't really noticeable. Going back to testing now.


EDIT: new info. Initial and cone do same dmg, only difference in elements.

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Tisca wrote:

About the Conc Effect;
so Ice Shot has the initial hit and then there's the cone. Conc Effect only affects the cone and that doesn't show on tooltip dps.

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Ice Shot

Fires an arrow that converts some physical damage to cold on its target and converts all physical damage to cold in a cone behind that target. Creates a patch of ground ice under the target.

Can we assume that it's the cone that does the job here? I tested with Conc as 5th link but wasn't really noticeable. Going back to testing now.

Yes. The aim was to create a better area of effect hit behind them. Let me know how your tests go. I don't really have the time to test it in depth by myself. Full-time jobs are the worst.

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elboyo wrote:

This build doesn't run Herald of Ice. Herald of Ice has no critical strike chance. It won't proliferate anything unless you use +% chance to freeze mods or Assassin's mark for the +% to critical strike. Even with about +40% increased area of effect, the shatter effect from Herald of Ice is only about the size of an unmodified Cold Snap. I really don't see how you're going to freeze full screens with Herald of Ice.

hmm, thanks, need to test that out by time again.
assassin´s mark and my 5% freeze chance only...
edit: youre right, most of them are chilled and not frozen :-/

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Please, please, please add the old build (using Infractem) back onto the guide. I'm not sure why you would change your build and not leave the old one available for those of us using it, but I cannot be the only one still trying to level with the old tree. I knew I should have bookmarked it. :(

And your guide still says Infractem is 100% mandatory... perhaps split into two different paths? One with Infractem and one without (and with pierce nodes)?

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Null_Unit wrote:

Please, please, please add the old build (using Infractem) back onto the guide. I'm not sure why you would change your build and not leave the old one available for those of us using it, but I cannot be the only one still trying to level with the old tree. I knew I should have bookmarked it. :(

And your guide still says Infractem is 100% mandatory... perhaps split into two different paths? One with Infractem and one without (and with pierce nodes)?

Just remove Mind Drinker, Thrill Killer and Piercing shots and go from there.

Am I the only one who feels the need of IAS? All the builds here have Heavy Draw but I'm planning on Deadly Draw instead. (Not both).
My default attack is at 1.4 APS.

Any build telling you to use Infractem is a giant waste of time.

Shitty bow - level 53 bow. 1.10 IAS, MAX POSSIBLE OF 213 DPS ON MAX ROLLED INFRACTEM, and you can't leech. Only bonus is the pierce & crit - which can be fixed with a gem + passives + quiver. 40% chance to pierce from passsive's plus over 60% from pierce gem. Problem solved (10% or more on quivers too now). As for the crit, can easily be found on a yellow bow if having more then 5% base crit on your bow is needed...

But..

Throw on a Chin Sol, 100% inc bow damage boost right there. Throw on Drill neck, 100% further dmg boost. (the math doesn't mean you now do 300% inc dmg of listed dps, but it does add A TON)

Throw on a Lioneye, unspec your accuracy nodes. Pick up DPS nodes (or whatever you want).
Boom you've already out dps'd infractem bow (probably by just using the Lioneye)

IAS too low? Its called Frenzy - its probably one of the best skills for bow (if not THE BEST phys skill) hands down.


What the hell is the point of an infractem if you plan to end game? It's useless on Bosses as well.

PS - is about 10x better then wasting your time with 3 dragons - (if you are doing cold to fire). I also suggest picking one up for ice resist maps.

Why is Infractem shit? Max rolled it can dish out 212 DPS - very very very very far off from:

Chin Sol 233 max dps (plus 100% inc dmg close range - usually played with point blank, so add 50% more up close).
Lioneye glare max dps 340 (you never miss)
Wont bother linking voltax and havent had a chance to play with the mf bow yet. But all are better choices, or any yellow bow with crit and IAS will out dps incraptem.



PPS, didn't read thru all the nonsense but.. if you are playing a bow build w/ ALWAYS pierce and you don't have

CWDT > Frost Wall (or FA>Frostwall, etc) suggested anywhere - you need to get off pierce builds asap. Ice shot (pierced) and frost wall were made for each other.

*** just looked at the passive tree and is this a joke? not even 1 defensive node has been selected?? phys AND ele dmg nodes taken (at level 54) AND over inc auras and reduced mana costs? lolololololololololol. So, you've specc'd into Cold Shot to do lightning. Why? LA is wayyyyy better. Ice shot to fire tho... with puncture makes a lot more sense to me. A LA crit build shouldn't have to rely on DoTs to do your work. ***

Kantermoose your tone makes me want to mock you but I'll stick to the facts.

Lioneye's Glare would cause your survivability to suffer hugely from reflect would it not? The pyre ring is indeed useful in it's own way and yet three dragons allows your fire damage to shock. Lightning arrow builds are fine and very popular with op expensive uniques to back them up if that's your cup of tea. They aren't so hot for a single shot piercing set up though and if you had read the guide you might comprehend why this works.

In short no one asked you and I don't think you brought anything helpful to the discussion. Good day sir.