wont trade a whole screen freeze/chill in for shocks.
whats so negative on destroying frozen bodies? they trigger another HoA AoE which proliferates. the body doesnt count, just their hitpoints.
however, good build, but i am rather on the saver side ;o)
Are you proliferating the Ice Shot itself? The most you would freeze would be the narrow cone AoE of Ice Shot if you don't.
As I said, I currently run Alpha's Howl, but I find the freeze to be fairly negligible for crowd control.
To each their own, I suppose.
no ;o) but you can prolif the AoE from Herold of Ice, if i switch bows and leech i can turn it on. used them both with my but wasted too many colours (that part sucks on a pure eva item) and i need a far better bow :-/
those harbingers are so damn expensive...
Hakku bench do wonder for like 15 to 25 chrom
Current gear still shitty (wondering next if i swap my boots and glove for blood dance and aureseize if I get better jewellery)
By the way I use a slightly different tree and chinsol but I definitely love this thread. .starting to camp here :)
You ARE my Bitch of burden!
"Stay Alive exile! Or you'll be the next zombie someone raises off the beach." - Altnaharra
" Be Excellent To Each Other" -MikeP_GGG
"If you die to yourself are you still the victor? " - BEX_GGG
Any build telling you to use Infractem is a giant waste of time.
Shitty bow - level 53 bow. 1.10 IAS, MAX POSSIBLE OF 213 DPS ON MAX ROLLED INFRACTEM, and you can't leech. Only bonus is the pierce & crit - which can be fixed with a gem + passives + quiver. 40% chance to pierce from passsive's plus over 60% from pierce gem. Problem solved (10% or more on quivers too now). As for the crit, can easily be found on a yellow bow if having more then 5% base crit on your bow is needed...
But..
Throw on a Chin Sol, 100% inc bow damage boost right there. Throw on Drill neck, 100% further dmg boost. (the math doesn't mean you now do 300% inc dmg of listed dps, but it does add A TON)
Throw on a Lioneye, unspec your accuracy nodes. Pick up DPS nodes (or whatever you want).
Boom you've already out dps'd infractem bow (probably by just using the Lioneye)
IAS too low? Its called Frenzy - its probably one of the best skills for bow (if not THE BEST phys skill) hands down.
What the hell is the point of an infractem if you plan to end game? It's useless on Bosses as well.
PS - is about 10x better then wasting your time with 3 dragons - (if you are doing cold to fire). I also suggest picking one up for ice resist maps.
Why is Infractem shit? Max rolled it can dish out 212 DPS - very very very very far off from:
Chin Sol 233 max dps (plus 100% inc dmg close range - usually played with point blank, so add 50% more up close).
Lioneye glare max dps 340 (you never miss)
Wont bother linking voltax and havent had a chance to play with the mf bow yet. But all are better choices, or any yellow bow with crit and IAS will out dps incraptem.
PPS, didn't read thru all the nonsense but.. if you are playing a bow build w/ ALWAYS pierce and you don't have
CWDT > Frost Wall (or FA>Frostwall, etc) suggested anywhere - you need to get off pierce builds asap. Ice shot (pierced) and frost wall were made for each other.
*** just looked at the passive tree and is this a joke? not even 1 defensive node has been selected?? phys AND ele dmg nodes taken (at level 54) AND over inc auras and reduced mana costs? lolololololololololol. So, you've specc'd into Cold Shot to do lightning. Why? LA is wayyyyy better. Ice shot to fire tho... with puncture makes a lot more sense to me. A LA crit build shouldn't have to rely on DoTs to do your work. ***
Just spoted that..how BLOODY RUDE IF YOU SHAME!!
Didn't you even read? Didn't you even test the build?
Just show how to out dps a 10 chaos build like this one!
[\rant]
Fact:
Pyre shatter so no more burn and shock prolif
3 dragons enable shock and burn prolif, as soon as you kill something the whole screen will burn
Infractem is good but a different tree and playstyle.
As soon as lv 62 ( for my chin sol part) I could put piety and dom on farm status
Last edit..looks like somebody is jealous that someone finaly found a working build for Minecraft bow after soo much time ;)
You ARE my Bitch of burden!
"Stay Alive exile! Or you'll be the next zombie someone raises off the beach." - Altnaharra
" Be Excellent To Each Other" -MikeP_GGG
"If you die to yourself are you still the victor? " - BEX_GGG
Last edited by WIKARINA#1936 on Sep 2, 2014, 8:04:38 PM
Any build telling you to use Infractem is a giant waste of time.
Shitty bow - level 53 bow. 1.10 IAS, MAX POSSIBLE OF 213 DPS ON MAX ROLLED INFRACTEM, and you can't leech. Only bonus is the pierce & crit - which can be fixed with a gem + passives + quiver. 40% chance to pierce from passsive's plus over 60% from pierce gem. Problem solved (10% or more on quivers too now). As for the crit, can easily be found on a yellow bow if having more then 5% base crit on your bow is needed...
But..
Throw on a Chin Sol, 100% inc bow damage boost right there. Throw on Drill neck, 100% further dmg boost. (the math doesn't mean you now do 300% inc dmg of listed dps, but it does add A TON)
Throw on a Lioneye, unspec your accuracy nodes. Pick up DPS nodes (or whatever you want).
Boom you've already out dps'd infractem bow (probably by just using the Lioneye)
IAS too low? Its called Frenzy - its probably one of the best skills for bow (if not THE BEST phys skill) hands down.
What the hell is the point of an infractem if you plan to end game? It's useless on Bosses as well.
PS - is about 10x better then wasting your time with 3 dragons - (if you are doing cold to fire). I also suggest picking one up for ice resist maps.
Why is Infractem shit? Max rolled it can dish out 212 DPS - very very very very far off from:
Chin Sol 233 max dps (plus 100% inc dmg close range - usually played with point blank, so add 50% more up close).
Lioneye glare max dps 340 (you never miss)
Wont bother linking voltax and havent had a chance to play with the mf bow yet. But all are better choices, or any yellow bow with crit and IAS will out dps incraptem.
PPS, didn't read thru all the nonsense but.. if you are playing a bow build w/ ALWAYS pierce and you don't have
CWDT > Frost Wall (or FA>Frostwall, etc) suggested anywhere - you need to get off pierce builds asap. Ice shot (pierced) and frost wall were made for each other.
*** just looked at the passive tree and is this a joke? not even 1 defensive node has been selected?? phys AND ele dmg nodes taken (at level 54) AND over inc auras and reduced mana costs? lolololololololololol. So, you've specc'd into Cold Shot to do lightning. Why? LA is wayyyyy better. Ice shot to fire tho... with puncture makes a lot more sense to me. A LA crit build shouldn't have to rely on DoTs to do your work. ***
Just spoted that..how BLOODY RUDE IF YOU SHAME!!
Didn't you even read? Didn't you even test the build?
Just show how to out dps a 10 chaos build like this one!
[\rant]
Fact:
Pyre shatter so no more burn and shock prolif
3 dragons enable shock and burn prolif, as soon as you kill something the whole screen will burn
Infractem is good but a different tree and playstyle.
As soon as lv 62 ( for my chin sol part) I could put piety and dom on farm status
Last edit..looks like somebody is jealous that someone finaly found a working build for Minecraft bow after soo much time ;)
infractem is one of the best bows you can get, for at least my crit based build, if havent got a decent harbinger bow or 5L.
Lioneye's is instant death for me! why? because hits cant be evaded and so you cant evade reflect, which is based on your accuracy.
chin sol is maybe okay, but with infractem 50% of mobs die somewhere offscreen by shooting through whole map. i would use chin sol if i am non-crit or if i got drillneck - but i dont, so infractem is the best bow you can get for starting maps.
leeching is a problem, so i need to run clarity instead of hatred.
about that 3 dragons - however, still havent got the point about that whole shattering as the prolif come from the HoA's AoE and not the corpse itself - i personally love that, so i can shatter some and burn the rest - shattering prevents most mobs to trigger their "on death" effect, which is always a nice to have.
however, tried H. of Ice again to test whole screen shattering, but it sucks compared to HoA - would maybe be okay, but with 400% crit multiplier and HoA's overkill dmg there is no way around HoA.
tried wihtout 3D: mob shatters.
I use hatred, so with HoA the mobs are always shocked and i dont know why, but as soon as some come near corps they'r set on fire for the shock i have to check when i can, but as i remember i never saw shocked body stay so shocked for such a long time :)
You ARE my Bitch of burden!
"Stay Alive exile! Or you'll be the next zombie someone raises off the beach." - Altnaharra
" Be Excellent To Each Other" -MikeP_GGG
"If you die to yourself are you still the victor? " - BEX_GGG
For the first full week of the new leagues, Infractem was in the top ten bows for per-hit damage. I don't care about how many attacks I get when one is enough to clear the whole pack.
No more needs said. If you cannot contribute to the conversation, you are better off not conversing.
Please, please, please add the old build (using Infractem) back onto the guide. I'm not sure why you would change your build and not leave the old one available for those of us using it, but I cannot be the only one still trying to level with the old tree. I knew I should have bookmarked it. :(
And your guide still says Infractem is 100% mandatory... perhaps split into two different paths? One with Infractem and one without (and with pierce nodes)?
Sorry about that. I put my old build, as near as I could remember it back in the guide.
