MMORPG.com Reveals: Catarina, Master of the Dead and Rampage League

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Galtrovan wrote:

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ressiv wrote:

I think I know why I dislike the Rampage idea.

Its not in the nature of PoE to try to play as fast as possible. The nature of PoE is the grind and the looting. Picking stuff up that gets you orbs, orbs to create better items. The whole Rampage idea completely goes against this nature. I will probably still want to pick up everything that sells and take it to town. I wont care about the whole rampage thing if it goes away or whatever.

But if the rampage thing gets paused if you go to town then that solves a lot, but it still goes against the nature of PoE imo.

^^This. Rushing in PoE will get you killed. You never know when an Exile or Invasion Boss will be in the next room. And I hope you are not removing theses things to make Rampage work. We need the occasional Exile, Invasion Boss, Strongbox to keep us on our toes. Without them, zones get stale.

Also, a 325 kill count? Really? Who will ever see that? Some areas I cannot even charge up Vaal Summon Skeletons before the area is cleared. Even if you somehow have an area with 325 enemies to kill, what would be the point of having an effect go off at that point? Everything would already be dead. If I want to see some fireworks with no effect, I can watch someone use some "win fireworks".

Furthermore, you have to stop and pick up items. I'm not leaving things I need on the ground to keep up some kill streak that is completely unnecessary, especially if playing in a party. In a party, you cannot leave the stuff on the ground and go back for it after the fact. Anything of value will be gone, not that I would retrace my steps afterwards to pick things up when playing solo either. Waste of time.

I guess the movement and attack speed boosts would be nice, but that makes things easier not harder, thus defeating the concept of the league being a "challenge" league.

Barring having to start over with nothing, what about Rampage is going to make the game harder than playing in Standard? (No I won't play in Standard... ever... no point in playing with access to everything that has ever dropped since Open Started)

Is the challenge of Rampage to rush and not die? I'll play Rampage for the fresh start, but I don't think I'm going to care or take part in trying to achieve kill streaks, unless there is some meaningful reward that hasn't been announced yet. Like, 1 of the 8 challenges being "Achieve a XXX kill streak".

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Odoakar wrote:

That actually makes no sense. Of course it matters. If you have to deliver 5 hits in one second, your mana regen needs to be X. If you have to deliver 5 hits in 5 seconds, your mana regen needs to be X/5 to sustain the attacks.

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Alhoon wrote:

Whatever happened to "we will never make custom leagues that are easier than their parent leagues".

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Galtrovan wrote:

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ressiv wrote:

I think I know why I dislike the Rampage idea.

Its not in the nature of PoE to try to play as fast as possible. The nature of PoE is the grind and the looting. Picking stuff up that gets you orbs, orbs to create better items. The whole Rampage idea completely goes against this nature. I will probably still want to pick up everything that sells and take it to town. I wont care about the whole rampage thing if it goes away or whatever.

But if the rampage thing gets paused if you go to town then that solves a lot, but it still goes against the nature of PoE imo.

^^This. Rushing in PoE will get you killed. You never know when an Exile or Invasion Boss will be in the next room. And I hope you are not removing theses things to make Rampage work. We need the occasional Exile, Invasion Boss, Strongbox to keep us on our toes. Without them, zones get stale.

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H4NS wrote:

EDIT: also, I whole heartily disagree with "Its not in the nature of PoE to try to play as fast as possible". Many others and I play this game to find the most effective and fastest ways of achieving an objective. Not playing merchant simulator

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H4NS wrote:

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Galtrovan wrote:

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ressiv wrote:

I think I know why I dislike the Rampage idea.

Its not in the nature of PoE to try to play as fast as possible. The nature of PoE is the grind and the looting. Picking stuff up that gets you orbs, orbs to create better items. The whole Rampage idea completely goes against this nature. I will probably still want to pick up everything that sells and take it to town. I wont care about the whole rampage thing if it goes away or whatever.

But if the rampage thing gets paused if you go to town then that solves a lot, but it still goes against the nature of PoE imo.

^^This. Rushing in PoE will get you killed. You never know when an Exile or Invasion Boss will be in the next room. And I hope you are not removing theses things to make Rampage work. We need the occasional Exile, Invasion Boss, Strongbox to keep us on our toes. Without them, zones get stale.

And honestly, who cares? this is a scru... standard challenge league.

Nothing bad shall happen if you somehow kill yourself to the already weak exiles or the invaders that will now be area bound.

Spoiler

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EDIT: also, I whole heartily disagree with "Its not in the nature of PoE to try to play as fast as possible". Many others and I play this game to find the most effective and fastest ways of achieving an objective. Not playing merchant simulator

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Serleth wrote:

I do have to agree with a lot of the general sentiment around this.

While having the kill-streak alive to improve clear-speed and everything is fun, I feel like there should be a counterbalance to it that promotes GETTING those streaks. Something like you're permanently facing Fleet monsters the entire league.

Edit: I also don't see how this could get implemented as a core game mechanic without seeming a bit silly. It's fine for a 3-month league, but doesn't seem reasonable for an aRPG as a permanent fixture.