[2.1 Ghazzy - Summoner Guides] Low Budget Builds

Will you make a build for zombies that's able to do high end maps for reasonable resources ?
Or will your "extremely expensive *build 3" have a cheaper version to do these maps ?

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Bushido74 wrote:

Ghazzy are you going to have to have full mirrored gear to do uber A? I hope we don't have to wait that long. ;)

From the looks of it we will be required to have mirrored gear to do Uber, i will make sure to kill uber before that but from all attempts i've done it looks to be very messy so no guarantees. However with mirrored gear the build does twice as much DPS. So we'll see.

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ahbab99 wrote:

Will you make a build for zombies that's able to do high end maps for reasonable resources ?
Or will your "extremely expensive *build 3" have a cheaper version to do these maps ?

All 3 builds are within the same type of summoner build, makes it easy for anyone to upgrade to the next step. Your only limitation is your budget.

I have no plans to do a build without SRS atm, as i am fully focusing on bringing down Uber Atziri with the third build. I do believe from what i've seen that i need to get Catarina master up for some specific crafts before testing again.

In your opinion, is 6L empower, Zombies build (with Mon'tregul's perhaps) still viable for 76-78 maps, or did the snapshotting patch destroy Zombies builds for high end maps ? Btw i'm not planning to do Atziri with that build, only to do maps.
Thanks in advance!

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Ghazzy wrote:

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Bushido74 wrote:

Ghazzy are you going to have to have full mirrored gear to do uber A? I hope we don't have to wait that long. ;)

From the looks of it we will be required to have mirrored gear to do Uber, i will make sure to kill uber before that but from all attempts i've done it looks to be very messy so no guarantees. However with mirrored gear the build does twice as much DPS. So we'll see.

sad to hear that. seems like they removed a lot of power from summoners with 1.2

I would honestly just drop Raise spectres lol. If you running high level content they just die and you have no way to resummon unless you exit the map and find them again. You do have more minion life nodes then I do but still I think even with all the minion life nodes I don't see them surviving Atziri =/. What I did for my summoner was just remove all the minion life nodes I mean you can just run away and resummon them back =/.

I found this setup to be particularly tanky for zombies. mstrike + life leach + empower in a +2 minion helm. With that passive node they have about 11% life leach combined with some life regen and as long as they don't get one-shotted should be able to tank most bosses.

in a 6L
mstrike + faster attack + life leach + empower + minion life + Meleesplash (even with a lower life pool your zombies will be tanky through that insane sustain)

Give animate weapon a try at level 20 they have 4356 life. They are pretty damn tanky With the right support gems.
-> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ahqk9lptRHcMdHdjM1hTNTV1NzhBeEtQYlVvM1NvSFE#gid=7

Also try Increased duration + Vaal haste, that shit makes summoners clear soooo much faster. 15seconds of uber mode could really help vs Atziri.

Just my 2 chaos, 1.2 zombie + spectre summoners have been nerfed quite hard.

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ahbab99 wrote:

In your opinion, is 6L empower, Zombies build (with Mon'tregul's perhaps) still viable for 76-78 maps, or did the snapshotting patch destroy Zombies builds for high end maps ? Btw i'm not planning to do Atziri with that build, only to do maps.
Thanks in advance!

Since i havn't tested it out i can't say for sure. I doubt it will be fast though, if it would work.

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mattc3303 wrote:

I would honestly just drop Raise spectres lol. If you running high level content they just die and you have no way to resummon unless you exit the map and find them again. You do have more minion life nodes then I do but still I think even with all the minion life nodes I don't see them surviving Atziri =/. What I did for my summoner was just remove all the minion life nodes I mean you can just run away and resummon them back =/.

I found this setup to be particularly tanky for zombies. mstrike + life leach + empower in a +2 minion helm. With that passive node they have about 11% life leach combined with some life regen and as long as they don't get one-shotted should be able to tank most bosses.

in a 6L
mstrike + faster attack + life leach + empower + minion life + Meleesplash (even with a lower life pool your zombies will be tanky through that insane sustain)

Give animate weapon a try at level 20 they have 4356 life. They are pretty damn tanky With the right support gems.
-> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ahqk9lptRHcMdHdjM1hTNTV1NzhBeEtQYlVvM1NvSFE#gid=7

Also try Increased duration + Vaal haste, that shit makes summoners clear soooo much faster. 15seconds of uber mode could really help vs Atziri.

Just my 2 chaos, 1.2 zombie + spectre summoners have been nerfed quite hard.

Any utility gem openings such as Vaal Haste is very nice to use for clearing maps faster.

However, the second build as well as the third build are made to specifically clear Atziri as well as Uber Atziri. And let me underline the fact that Evangelists do not die on maps, it is SUPER rare that it happens. However on Atziri map and Uber map the risks of them dying is higher.

I am still tweaking on ways of making them survive more for the Uber fight.

The Undying Evangelists are MANDATORY to handle Uber Atziri, thats a given fact. Regular Atziri, not so much but it does offer you a big safety on the vaal overlords and as well as the start of trio-boss as both of them can one shot you with their Rain spells (Rain of Ice, Rain of Arrows). And again, makes the Atziri fight in regular a lot smoother and safer as well.


So from my experience you will need to run Spectres, removing them would cause huge problems for you in terms of survival. You don't gain anything that is worth it by removing them.
Vaal Haste is not helpful on Atziri as it only provides you with a small bonus for 1 phase which again, is not worth the socket.

I was thinking about a Atziri focused summoner. Have u thought about 75/75% block build.

And yeah Atziri is a whole new game lol. You actually have to redesign a build to attempt her.

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mattc3303 wrote:

I was thinking about a Atziri focused summoner. Have u thought about 75/75% block build.

And yeah Atziri is a whole new game lol. You actually have to redesign a build to attempt her.

I was the only summoner who did Uber Atziri Services pre-patch. My goal atm is to finish my third build to be able to do that again. From the looks of it, it will be very simmilar to the LL-ST build in terms of requirement in gear.


Block build does not feel like a summoner build to me. I'm a summoner for life ;)

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mattc3303 wrote:

I was thinking about a Atziri focused summoner. Have u thought about 75/75% block build.

And yeah Atziri is a whole new game lol. You actually have to redesign a build to attempt her.

As you've said the build is required to be reworked entirely, i have 2 ways to go, either more survivability or higher DPS. I have a few things in mind...

I feel like there's a way to abuse the mortal conviction part to get absurd dps, but the problem would be maintaining the srs, which requires roughly 240 l/s in regen (assuming 4 cast/sec), which requires a ton of investment without doing something like immortal flesh, but if there is I haven't figure it out yet