[2.1 Ghazzy - Summoner Guides] Low Budget Builds

ghazzy why don't u pick up jewel nodes ?

What's better- Hatred or Haste? I'm trying to make an SRS MF build, and I can only use one of the two auras (the rest of my mana is reserved with Purities)

Hi im new to summoner builds played as incinerator but now whit the change to eb and nerf on mana reg not that good so i decided to try a summoner . Can you poin't me to a skill tre progression i didn't see any here thx

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Cooldoggie wrote:

wait how do you even proc EE with the low budget SRS build?

also does animate guardian go away if its dies or you logout?

Regarding EE;
I'm sorry missed to change skeletons for Arc!

Animate Guardian;
You have to resummon "him" after logout, NOT targeting any gear piece. This will bring back the AG with its gear you logged out with.
However, if he dies he will lose all his gear, yes.

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axazol wrote:

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Ghazzy wrote:

However, Empower being better than Multistrike, since when? The +3 gives 1 lvl to Empower, lets say you have a lvl 4 empower for the sake of calculating, you end up with lvl 5 in that weapon giving 4 lvls that is a direct increase of an approximate 40% MORE dmg from that support gem. There are more than a few other gem links that would give more than 40% MORE dmg instead of a lvl 4 vaaled Empower gem in this link set up. So no, Empower is not better than the other gems even in a + staff.

Since 2.0 Mult and Splash has no +dmg mod

SRS:
23lvl - 623 av.dmg
25lvl - 771 av.dmg
27lvl - 949 av.dmg
28lvl - 1050 av.dmg

+2 staff + Emp.4lvl = ~27% inc
+2 staff + Mult 20/20 = ~30% inc

+3 staff + Emp.4lvl = ~34% inc
+3 staff + Mult 21/20 = ~32% inc

Meaning Echo + M.Ph.D + M.Dmg + Culling already linked and we have Hatred+Generocity, Haste, V.Haste, F.Offering active.

You can check your self or use my calc.

Double and tripple checked your numbers. So allow me to apologize, you are correct. Will adjust main post accordingly!

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mouzGaming wrote:

@Ghazzy - So Chris just replied to me saying that several Sprectre got balanced due to beta feedback and common sense. Including Revenants. Do you still think they will be a good option? Or do you expect them to be nerfed to the ground?

I'm expecting them to be viable, will be testing this tonight on my stream!

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palmscrab wrote:

Hi Gazzy. Let me know if I´m wrong, before awakening the best staff for a SRS build was +3 staff ( +2 fire gem and 1+gem) and now for awakening I read in your SRS hybrid build that the best staff is Pledge of Hands. Is it correct? if yes... is it Pledge of Hands the best staff for all builds that you go to put for SRS ? Thanks in advance.

The difference is minimal, what pledge of hands provides you with is an easier handling of sustaining the casting of your spirit thanks to its 100% increased mana pool gain.
Purely statisticly looking at minmaxing DPS numbers i will have to look at more accurately towards my high budget uber atziri killing SRS build :)
From the looks of it, Pledge is looking real good.

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nolle1991 wrote:

ghazzy why don't u pick up jewel nodes ?

As described in the buildthread, i would only take a jewel slot if i get my hands on a really sweet useful jewel. If not, then i would not take any jewel slots before i reach that stage of my buildtree. Once i have the buildtree looking like that, thats when i focus 100% on all my nodes to be spent towards getting as many jewel slots as possible, starting with the connected ones, to then move on to the ones requiring 2-4 points to be spent to reach.

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AzierWill wrote:

What's better- Hatred or Haste? I'm trying to make an SRS MF build, and I can only use one of the two auras (the rest of my mana is reserved with Purities)

Hatred > Haste (even without generosity on the hatred)

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Ackasha wrote:

Hi im new to summoner builds played as incinerator but now whit the change to eb and nerf on mana reg not that good so i decided to try a summoner . Can you poin't me to a skill tre progression i didn't see any here thx

The biggest problem for summoner builds is to create a "mid-progression" buildtree, as it depends A LOT on what type of gear you are wearing. If you have a lot of effective HP on your gear and resistances, it will allow you to focus more during your lvling time on getting minion related nodes. And of course, if not, then you'd have to prio the HP/ES nodes higher whilst you level.
I spec my trees differently each time all to adjust my survivability depending on my gearing.

Confirmed!

BiS SRS Staff in the game will be Pledge of Hands for 2.0.
It's minmaxed DMG is better only when we use Melee DMG on Full life which means it can be situationally worse than a classic +3 staff. It has the same cast speed modifier as a +3 staff would have with "ok" or better cast speed roll on it.

In the end, Pledge of Hands also gives us an significant increase of mana which makes us sustain the casting a lot better. Ultimately they are both rather on par but i personally would take the Pledge of Hands due to the mere fact that SRS rarely take any DMG what so ever.

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Ghazzy wrote:

Purely statisticly looking at minmaxing DPS numbers i will have to look at more accurately towards my high budget uber atziri killing SRS build :)

Very much looking forward to this build :)

Hi Ghazzy, been checking out your build for SRS, and I have a question, there will be a low budget srs CI version?

As a poor player, getting chaos defense and good ES is kinda hard, and also i have some gear from other CI char i could use again.

Thank you.

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KairoStark wrote:

Hi Ghazzy, been checking out your build for SRS, and I have a question, there will be a low budget srs CI version?

As a poor player, getting chaos defense and good ES is kinda hard, and also i have some gear from other CI char i could use again.

Thank you.

The ammount of chaos resistance is rather simple to get your hands on. However, CI will not be a help i'm going to display due to the power behind hybrid builds and their low cost in terms of currency.
Keep in mind that the Hybrid SRS doesnt need life rolls on the gear pieces. Just ES and then getting at least 40%+ chaos resistance!

Its cheaper than it sounds. :)

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Ghazzy wrote:

The ammount of chaos resistance is rather simple to get your hands on. However, CI will not be a help i'm going to display due to the power behind hybrid builds and their low cost in terms of currency.
Keep in mind that the Hybrid SRS doesnt need life rolls on the gear pieces. Just ES and then getting at least 40%+ chaos resistance!

Its cheaper than it sounds. :)

Appreciate your help there. Yet another question remains, why arent you picking the main nodes of minions like Herd the Flock and Puppet Master?

Right now (just starting the act 4 normal) i feel that if i didnt have the zombies to use as a meatwall i would die really fast.

OK, let me just rephrase it (edit after getting home and actually being able to look to the trees and stuff)

What I'm trying to do is combine both the SRS and the Zoomancer so I can cast SRS and also have beefy minions old-style without picking the keystones.

Do you think that's actually viable or I'm just trying something really stupid here?

why culling strike?, isnt it better just fire damage/empower, and the one you dont use change for mele splash for single target? (SRS). I am asumming ofc that u have lvl4 empower

second question: Why slower projectiles on revenants instead of faster casting?