Glacial Cascade - Calling the Hivemind to think-tank it's usage
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Three Dragons, Cold to Fire, Avatar of Fire, Knockback.
Hello shockstacks. It's worth noting that +2 maps are a dangerous thing.
They can cause players to get out of their depth - playing maps that are too hard for the items they currently have. Herp Derp. |
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" Hmmm,.. clever! No that you've mentioned it though, I'm actually more intrigued by using Three Dragons for "cold ignite" in a DoT build. It could make for an amazing trapper that way too. Another very quick draft: With: LMB: GC + Cast on Crit + Detonate Dead + Life Leech + Faster Casting RMB: Trap + Desecrate + ? |
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" Since Glacial Cascade is a spell it will not be able to proc Cast on Crit. Maybe you knew that though... But if you did I don't really see why you would use Glacial Cascade to ignite. There are better choices for that. |
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" You can get shock stacks just from having enough spell/ele damage on a crit build and putting Added Lightning Damage on the skill tbh. "so you can see who has more PvPenis" - Chris Wilson "Everyone can at least be exposed to Leo's PvPenis" - Chris Wilson Last edited by Kenzorz#6970 on Apr 8, 2014, 4:58:02 PM
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" I did know that, but when I said "very quick draft" I meant VERY quick. In fact I spewed that post out so quickly, I forgot about it XD For some more thought through idea(s) of mine, check page 7, or:
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GC is clearly not designed to utilize the physical aspect for any form of conversion, the damage is just too low. It hits rapidly, multiple times per cast, works with conc effect to actually increase hit rate and can have added damage gems applied at 80% effectiveness for each of its many individual hits.
This is clearly to be used as a high crit, high damage spell for single targets, utilizing multiple elements. Best way to use this skill is added cold+added lit+faster casting+conc aoe+crit chance or damage in a 6L, speccing heavily for crit and spell damage (NOT cold or element specific damage) and taking static blows and shock duration to get multiple shocks per cast. It is not good for clearing large packs, and should not be paired with increased AoE. Cold to fire is also a waste of a slot, as is added fire and hatred, due to how small the physical component is. Best curse, with above setup, is elemental weakness. Otherwise, likely conductivity or frostbite, depending on which you prefer. |
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" I agree with most of this except saying that Conc Effect is the only way to go. As I said, increased AoE makes it easy to get 2 hits on large packs per cast as a linear AoE, which translates to pretty solid DPS combined with the high cast speed, slow, and potential knockback. Single-handedly makes interior zones like A1 caves, A2 Ruins, and A3 Sewers cakewalks. |
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I call upon the Hivemind, and the Hivemind answers in turn. Keep it up guys, this thread's looking great. :)
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" What if we use this:  Then go something like: Power Siphon + GMP + Curse on Hit + Elemental Weakness + Item Rarity Glacial Cascade + Faster Casting + Elemental Proliferation + PCoC Discharge + Elemental Proliferation + LL http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgABAv4EBwW1CGcOSBGWEb8UsBa_F1QYPCKBJDwmlSepKPotHzBxMHwxiTGeNMs6MDpCOuE_c0GHQsNFnUlRS3hMs066UDBRR1VLVcZZvFptXfJh4mNDZk9nvW0ZbXtwUnDVeM56qn8rf8aBSYIegseH24hCiPGMNo19jb-OPI9GkzqYrZrgm6Gdo6KjplenCKc0p1yqf6q4rJiyOLTFtUi3PriTvSfAUcHzwuzFKMaiz2XQ0ND71CPWitsL217dqN-E41bjhOTr6-7ub_Id8kXy4fPq9lv31_no_Kv-Cg== Put a minimal amount of fire damage on your Wand. Use it to curse them, and trigger Elemental Equilibrium. Because of Three Dragons, your fire damage will also shock them even though the actual damage done is minimal. When they get close use GC to do damage, and stack Power Charges. Because of Elemental Equilibrium, it's super effective! When they get TOO close, Discharge. You will do lightning damage, which again because of Elemental Equilibrium, is super effective! Also (this again because of Three Dragons) your lightning damage will, freeze. Now use your Wand again to cull them and find many loot. Win? Last edited by Brazilski#3092 on Apr 9, 2014, 5:04:19 AM
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So I just tried this on a character not specced for spell damage (he has elemental nodes) with a spare six link I had laying around. I went Glacial Cascade, Conc Effect, Added Chaos, Added Cold, Faster Casting and a 20/20 Increased AOE. GC was only lvl 12 and the rest of the skills were lvl 16 to 18 with the exception of the 20/20 Increased AOE and I had a listed dps of 3.3k.
Keep in mind I was also not specced for crit. I was definitely still hitting humanoid sized monsters twice so actual dps was 6.6k, I didn't get a chance to hit larger monsters but I would bet they still get hit 3 times. I think if I actually had a character meant to run this skill from the ground up I could be doing at least a listed 10k dps which of course would be 20k or 30k based on monster size. This skill seems powerful to me. Also my suggestion to run hatred or added fire was stupid, I hadn't seen the higher levels of the gems, the phy damage just doesn't scale high enough. On the other hand having slightly more than half my damage coming from chaos and phy damage made reflect monsters a cake walk! Creator of the Praxis ring. Want to stop power creep? Gut crit chance and crit multi. Last edited by Fluffy_Puppies#3904 on Apr 9, 2014, 5:22:33 AM
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