Shockingly strong flamethrower build (Incinerate + Three Dragons)

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Bada_Bing wrote:

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IamtheAxeMan wrote:

Since incinerate does not crit to ignite (it does burn)... aren't you only getting the shock stacks from the tree and quality added lighting gem, not the helm?

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I guess what I am saying is if you take the 2 10% chance to Shock node and thrown in a added lighting damage gem, your incinerate would shock without the three dragons helm.

That's not the case. Without the helm incinerate can't shock. It would be the added lightning part that shocks, not incinerate's fire damage.

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IamtheAxeMan wrote:

Edit 2: The ONLY thing your Three dragons helm is doing is having your lighting damage from the gem freeze the mobs.

No. Without three dragons incinerate has NO secondary effect and ald shocks. With the helmet incinerate has a secondary effect (shock) and ald chills/freezes. Having your main spell get a secondary effect without any downside is a huge bonus imho.

Some numbers:
Without the helm shock is based solely on added lightning damage. Given incinerates 30% efectiveness penalty you have 38 base damage (lvl20) to get past the threshold and trigger shock.
With three dragons you have incinerate's 85 (lvl20) supported with a linked fire penetration for 111 (123 if the fire pen. has 20 qual) base damage.
Not only will you get past the shock threshold much better with the three dragons, your shock duration will also be 3-4 times longer than with a mere ald. As shock scales with stacks (which requires long enough shock duration), three dragons has a HUGE advantage over the ald + other helmet combo.

BTW this is a Three Dragons Build. To actually suggest dropping the defining part of the build makes as much sense as posting in a facebreaker build to switch to a 2-handed weapon instead. It kinda makes no sense.