[2.2] Arly's Lightning Arrow - Elemental Pathfinder

It's me again! Sorry to keep asking questions but I noticed your non charged DPS numbers are much higher than mine. I invested in some new dps oriented jewellery but I'm still no where near your 17k without charges. I get that your charged up DPS is much higher than mine because you have higher max frenzy charges than me but with Wrath, HOI and Golem my DPS is only 10k, a whole 7k behind yours! As other have said though, even with the DPS I currently have I'm still destroying most things! This is an amazing build, congrats!


My Equipment is as follows:

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This is my current tree:

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https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwIAAF4B0QMeBS0FtQguDPINjQ3RES8WvxmOGo0byB9BIXYj0yP2JP0mlSoLKwouUzBxMHwx-jY9N9Q51DpCQzFHfkp9S3hM_02STipRR1VLWyZbr13yYeJiWmKsY0NlTWyMbmlvJ3BSdO11y3b3fXV_K3_7hNmGzod2idOMNo19jX6Nv49gkAqaapuNnaqgn6OKr-u0xbe2u-O9Nr6nwTPC7MSiz93Tb9N-1CPV-NrB3ajfmOOE45_nVOpi7T_tg-4O73rxivzF_rr_3g==?accountName=m0onknight&characterName=ShrimplyShocking


I also have 4 jewels with ~6% Attack speed and ~10% projectile damage each.

Is there anything obvious I'm doing wrong?

Thanks in advance for helping.
Last edited by m0onknight#3858 on Dec 29, 2015, 4:58:24 PM
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m0onknight wrote:
It's me again! Sorry to keep asking questions but I noticed your non charged DPS numbers are much higher than mine. I invested in some new dps oriented jewellery but I'm still no where near your 17k without charges. I get that your charged up DPS is much higher than mine because you have higher max frenzy charges than me but with Wrath, HOI and Golem my DPS is only 10k, a whole 7k behind yours! As other have said though, even with the DPS I currently have I'm still destroying most things! This is an amazing build, congrats!


My Equipment is as follows:

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This is my current tree:

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https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwIAAF4B0QMeBS0FtQguDPINjQ3RES8WvxmOGo0byB9BIXYj0yP2JP0mlSoLKwouUzBxMHwx-jY9N9Q51DpCQzFHfkp9S3hM_02STipRR1VLWyZbr13yYeJiWmKsY0NlTWyMbmlvJ3BSdO11y3b3fXV_K3_7hNmGzod2idOMNo19jX6Nv49gkAqaapuNnaqgn6OKr-u0xbe2u-O9Nr6nwTPC7MSiz93Tb9N-1CPV-NrB3ajfmOOE45_nVOpi7T_tg-4O73rxivzF_rr_3g==?accountName=m0onknight&characterName=ShrimplyShocking


I also have 4 jewels with ~6% Attack speed and ~10% projectile damage each.

Is there anything obvious I'm doing wrong?

Thanks in advance for helping.


You can mastercraft 12 ias on to your bow which will improve damage by a noticeable amount. One of the largest gains in dps is having 38 multi in the bow and is what I would recommend aiming for as priority but your current bow is absolutely fine. Having crit multi will generally outweigh having one extra flat elemental. Getting a bow that reaches 6.6+ crit with all stats placed will also be very meaningful to producing consistent crits.

I took a look at both your gear itemization and tree and you're doing very well in both fronts, nothing I would change outside of small incremental upgrades. You got flat cold on almost every gear slot possible to ensure herald of ice - power charge procs. I would just wait till your gems and character levels.

Keep in mind my gems are 20 quality after the gcp recipe and most of my jewels have resists which allow me to remove resist affixes from gear for more life and dps oriented affixes.

10000 LA dps with auras and golem but no blood rage is very high and even that alone should be enough to clear high map after you add on charges and blood rage.

Summary:
-If you really really need more dps for some reason. Consider searching for a bow with 30+crit damage, around 220+ edps most of it from cold/lightning and the ability to reach 1.4 APS and 6.6 crit chance after stats are placed.
-Try to find ias/proj jewels with an additional good stat like resists or crit (though you should not spend more than 6 chaos a pop for these unless it has 4 good mods since their just an intermediary to end game jewels). This will allow you to change sapphire rings into ideally diamond rings with similar ele damage and resists.
-Keep leveling till you get the frenzy charges, these are an essential part of the build

Bow DPS comparison - In hideout

1)Storm cloud: 10,607

2)Gale mark: 11,776

3)Gale song: 13,267

4)Dragon bane: 15,264


As you can see, stormcloud is amazing for this build and is actually rather hard to beat even with much higher DPS bows due to its high base crit and ridiculous attack speed.
IGN: Arlianth
Check out my LA build: 1782214
Last edited by Nephalim#2731 on Dec 30, 2015, 6:58:51 PM
Hello. i have a ranger with physical damage (%174 in passive) passive tree with tornado shot. i have change my tornado shot with lighting arrow and chain passive gems. it is way easier than tornado shot and i want to change my build to ligning arrow. my passive tree is like this buidl it is nearly same. but i'm not sure if i claim all my physical dmg and switch my harbinger bow to Voltaxic Rift it will be good enough ?? thanks for help
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dwdie wrote:
Hello. i have a ranger with physical damage (%174 in passive) passive tree with tornado shot. i have change my tornado shot with lighting arrow and chain passive gems. it is way easier than tornado shot and i want to change my build to ligning arrow. my passive tree is like this buidl it is nearly same. but i'm not sure if i claim all my physical dmg and switch my harbinger bow to Voltaxic Rift it will be good enough ?? thanks for help




Unspec in the following sequence to minimize cost of regret:
-bow critical strike chance (near lethality)
-essence sap
-mana leech
-mana leech

Spec into the following:
10 dex node LEFT of herbalism.
10 dex node BELOW the above node to connect your tree.


unspec:
1 node from the bow damage and attack speed node all the way to the 10 dex node next to jewel socket
add 1 node to desired node
1 node from the bow damage and attack speed node all the way to the 10 dex node next to jewel socket
add 1 node to desired node
etc etc

spec into:
cold hearted calculation
ev/es below
nullification
int node RIGHT of nullification
dex node RIGHT of nullification to connect your tree


unspec out of physical damage/will of blades
IGN: Arlianth
Check out my LA build: 1782214
thank you very much man. i'm doing it right now but dont have the bow after i get the bow i will change all unnecessary passives.

thank you
Hey man, love your build!

Quick question. If I have a 5-link belly of the beast, Rigwald's Quills, a Thunderfist, and a Voltaxic Rift.

What would be the optimal setup for both Blast Rain and Lightning Arrow?

I'm currently thinking:
Gloves: Blast Rain - WED - Conc Effect - Faster Attacks
Chest: Lightning Arrow - WED - GMP - VM - Added Lightning Damage

I'm still setting up my ranger for the upgrade as I just hit level 67 so I can't test it out yet. I was running (4link) LA - GMP - Chain - WED while levelling.

I guess you could say what I'm worried about most is if it would be redundant to link Chain to Lightning Arrow (As I already have fork from Quills) instead of Added Lightning Damage.




P.S. is shattering mobs more dependent on crit% or overall cold damage?
Last edited by tryagainplss#2611 on Jan 1, 2016, 1:59:24 PM
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tryagainplss wrote:
Hey man, love your build!

Quick question. If I have a 5-link belly of the beast, Rigwald's Quills, a Thunderfist, and a Voltaxic Rift.

What would be the optimal setup for both Blast Rain and Lightning Arrow?

I'm currently thinking:
Gloves: Blast Rain - WED - Conc Effect - Faster Attacks
Chest: Lightning Arrow - WED - GMP - VM - Added Lightning Damage

I'm still setting up my ranger for the upgrade as I just hit level 67 so I can't test it out yet. I was running (4link) LA - GMP - Chain - WED while levelling.

I guess you could say what I'm worried about most is if it would be redundant to link Chain to Lightning Arrow (As I already have fork from Quills) instead of Added Lightning Damage.




P.S. is shattering mobs more dependent on crit% or overall cold damage?

Glad your enjoying the build! Your links look good to me. For LA, try playing around with VM vs Crit dam. The latter will help your shatters and ensure every crit is a kill. if the dps is a close call I see no reason to use VM.

For blast rain, I have heard FA for poison can do wonders for ultra high hp bosses but have not tested it myself.

With quills and gmp you actually do not even 'need' chain and you can replace it with a dps gem to skyrocket your paper dps. However, in practice, chain was still clearing faster than added light or crit dam because of the mechanics behind fork which are vastly inferior to chain. I would advise you to try it, I believe chain is absolutely crucial to LA but I certainly won't force you to do the same.


Overall cold damage is crucial and crit dam will help. Even with 100% crit, if your cold damage on a crit does not breach the freeze threshold relative to mob hp then you will simply not shatter. This is why voltaxic builds need cold damage on their rings/amulets/quiver/gloves unless their packing a nuclear payload of crit dam.
IGN: Arlianth
Check out my LA build: 1782214
What about HC? Viable?
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Unk_Particle wrote:
What about HC? Viable?

Yes, voltaxic ele builds are the go to choice for HC.
IGN: Arlianth
Check out my LA build: 1782214
Hey man, I just got done buying some preliminary gear (to start mapping) and did some dried lake runs.

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https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwIAAF4B0QMeBS0FtQguDPINjQ3RES8WvxmOG8gfQSF2I9Mj9iSdJP0mlSoLKwouUzB8Mfo2PTfUOdQ-z0MxTP9Nkk4qUUdVS1oaW69d8mHiYlpirGNDbIxwUnTtdct29311fyuGzonTjDaNfY1-jb-PYJAKm42dqqCfo4qly6_rsKu0xbe2vea-p8EzwuzDM8Siz93Tb9N-1CPawd-Y44TnVOpi7T_tg-4O73rxivzF_ro=?accountName=tryagainplss&characterName=BlueGatoradeSalt


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Nephalim wrote:

For LA, try playing around with VM vs Crit dam. The latter will help your shatters and ensure every crit is a kill. if the dps is a close call I see no reason to use VM.
The DPS for either gem wasn't really an issue as I kill packs instantly. But there was a noticeable increase in the amount of shatters using Crit Damage allowing for easier power charge generation.

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Nephalim wrote:

For blast rain, I have heard FA for poison can do wonders for ultra high hp bosses but have not tested it myself.
I'm now a Poison believer, it's so strong. Although the difference is not that much, poison uses less mana overall since you're firing less, so that's kinda nice.

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Nephalim wrote:

With quills and gmp you actually do not even 'need' chain and you can replace it with a dps gem to skyrocket your paper dps. However, in practice, chain was still clearing faster than added light or crit dam because of the mechanics behind fork which are vastly inferior to chain. I would advise you to try it, I believe chain is absolutely crucial to LA but I certainly won't force you to do the same.
The DPS didn't really matter for me because I was killing packs in 1-2 volleys either way. But I could really see the difference in clear speed when LA is linked to chain, ESPECIALLY against off-screen mobs.

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Nephalim wrote:

Overall cold damage is crucial and crit dam will help. Even with 100% crit, if your cold damage on a crit does not breach the freeze threshold relative to mob hp then you will simply not shatter. This is why voltaxic builds need cold damage on their rings/amulets/quiver/gloves unless their packing a nuclear payload of crit dam.
This piece of advice was very valuable. As you can see from the gear I bought, I aimed to get a lot of cold damage on my jewelry and it helped very much in shattering enemies. I went from needing to use assassin's mark all to the to just using it whenever I run out of charges.



Overall, thanks to your advice I think I did a fairly decent job in buying starter gear. Also, this build is ridiculously strong lmao.
Last edited by tryagainplss#2611 on Jan 1, 2016, 4:17:37 PM

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