GZ FranzKafka, First level 100 on nemesis league!

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mazul wrote:

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Invalesco wrote:

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However, trying to compare the behaviour of "exploiting a bug purposefully" to that of a primal reflex is laughable, because it is in no way reflexive whatsoever. It is a decision taken after a variable amount of deliberation, depending on an individual's sense of honour/moral values or whatsoever.

Dunno if you are refering to me by that last part of your reply XD. I am just curious about the word behaviour as general terminology, didn't intend nor compare with the main subject of this topic:P.

of course not! not unless you've somehow managed to exploit a bug from twilight strand to lioneye's watch, and even then it can't possibly have been harmful to the game anyway :p

invalesco you would make a good teacher you seem very patient :)

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Cribstaxx wrote:

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Lacceh wrote:

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mazul wrote:

Do you consider reflexes to not be behaviour?

Reflexes? That I move my finger trying to touch my eyeball and my eyelid closes to protect it? No I'm not talking about that.

I think he is talking more about the tendency a baby has to suck on things, whereas it's parents certainly did not teach him to put things in his mouth, he just did it, as almost all babies do, but yet aren't taught.

Human nature is not a tangible thing. It is a metaphor describing a behavior that most humans have in common, that doesn't mean that we are innately born with said trait.

Young people these days just believe every word their psych, philosophy, science teacher says and regurgitates exactly what they hear with no personal thought, I hate argueing with them.

Thankfully I have no more time to argue because I'm getting off work now =D

@mazul:
I wasn't talking about reflexes, don't know why you're so keen on discussing them.

@cribstaxx:
When you say 'most humans have in common', that's vague and means nothing. But you are agreeing with me, that it's not born with. So where does it come from? The environment.
You can't just claim that people will be competitive and do anything to 'get ahead of others', because that's 'human nature'. That's an oversimplified and false view.

You already feel threatened in your beliefs by what I had to say, and try to label me as 'young' or imply that I merely regurgitate and don't have any personal thoughts or experience of my own, and trying to discredit me in such a way. It's ok though I understand. :)


Nothing more to discuss about burned miscreations. :)

<3 Invalesco

and to stay on topic gz on the clever use of game mechanics

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kapitankapusta wrote:

Inex make that :

"disappointing people

disappointed people everywhere"

And ill give you a free +1.

It's only fair, since it is more accurate :)

(and yes, that implies both the players and GGG's actions, or non-action)

It's just a game..

If it was that important, GGG would answer to any suggesion, talks much much more about what they are planning for poe, they would even share with us their daily routine, their TO-DO list, and ofc they would play poe as hardcore poe players(Chris is level 55~ish).

Grats on streaming the exploits and giving everyone ammunition to hate you.

Could've avoided this whole thing.

That does not mean a lot of player cannot be disappointed with this turn of events, both from GGG and the players directly related to it.

Imo this will impact how future players will look at the 4 month league's and ladders.

And both GGG and those players are responsible for that.

for example, i never intent to win a league or anything, but i take comfort in the fact that anybody that plays in that league is bound by the same rules, and in some way or another endures the same process.

From any league from this one, people will question the first people reaching lvl 100 and will blame it on an exploit or some other shady practice, devaluation the experience associated with it, and that is pretty sad for the top-ladder players

Like i mentioned before, if it was a nobody that found this out = np

If it is a top player, competing for the ladder and streaming PoE = not okay

they have a function within this community, they are roll-models to a lot of people watching them. so he should expect the backlash from this, greed is never pretty, and does not really give positive results.

GGG has not yet commented on them reaching level 100, like they normally do, why do you think that is?

Personally i think they expected more from there top-ladder competitors. Sad day for PoE imo,

i am disappoint ...

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Grats on streaming the exploits and giving everyone ammunition to hate you.

Could've avoided this whole thing.

Not really, xp gain per hour is publicly available to anybody, and showed a spike that is impossible to get without this "exploit"

One way or the other, this would have been made public, with the current drama after that.

Any top ladder competitor must do one of these:
- Play in a party.
.. that's it.

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Boem wrote:

Imo this will impact how future players will look at the 4 month league's and ladders.

What do you think of:
-to be in the top ladder you must follow different rules like:
1. Always do maps in a party.
2. Flip currencies by buying them first half day and sell them during the second half day when another poe community has woken up.
3. BUY STASH TABS.
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I would add myself:
4. Exploit exploits.
(and ofc for some players: use D2j** forum gold to buy poe ingame stuff/ or just have a second selling thread on that other forum/ use leaked alpha informations when possible..)