One Week Nemesis Race Infographic

Instead of making dex not add evasion, should IR cut off armor by like 50% after dex is added to the evasion and the evasion is converted?

If there ever was a case for "Glancing Blows" for evasion it couldn't have been more clear.


Edit: Also lvl 90 for a 1 week race. Jesus man...

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Qarl wrote:

We now have a template for making them, so assuming this one is popular, we can make future ones a little easier.

Statsgasm! I would absolutely love to see more of this kind of thing. E.g. global stats of the entire playerbase, without going too too heavy into details, since it would take forever. But i'll take anything really, this was my favorite GGG post of all time.


I'm surprised only 3365 keystones were assigned. Even if we count only surviving characters, that's an average of 1 keystone for every 4 characters. What? I guess the curve of character levels is long-tailed. Tons of low level characters, very few mid-high.

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Qarl wrote:

While the keystones used were influenced a little by players following specific examples, clearly Iron Reflexes is too dominant in this short format.

I wouldn't go too crazy drawing conclusions from data like that. A lot of skills and keystones are overused not because they are good, but due to groupthink, popularized stream/forum cookie cutter builds, or because they are the flavor of the month. Kripp popularized IR and tons of people/builds use it without even knowing how armor works, nor if they should actually use it. I think a better indication would be to compare the results of IR players vs non-IR players. Though even that can be biased, if by happenstance a couple popular, great builds happen to have IR, despite not needing it.

Seems hailrakes transformation from a rangy young bandit with a dragonball-z haircut and fists of ice, to a middle aged sack of jelly wielding a random chunk of frozen driftwood, hasnt negatively impacted his ability to put a quartet of ice spears into an offscreen target.



And ill echo what others have said about CI and IR- theyre not underpowered and overpowered respectively, CI just happens to need a huge amount of dedicated gear which isnt likely to be available in a 1-week event, while IR is effective from the moment it can be taken. Pretty sure CI would be far more popular in a similar 1 month event.

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unsane wrote:

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Qarl wrote:

While the keystones used were influenced a little by players following specific examples, clearly Iron Reflexes is too dominant in this short format.

I wouldn't go too crazy drawing conclusions from data like that. A lot of skills and keystones are overused not because they are good, but due to groupthink, popularized stream/forum cookie cutter builds, or because they are the flavor of the month. Kripp popularized IR and tons of people/builds use it without even knowing how armor works, nor if they should actually use it. I think a better indication would be to compare the results of IR players vs non-IR players. Though even that can be biased, if by happenstance a couple popular, great builds happen to have IR, despite not needing it.

I disagree with this logic around IR. I don't need Krip to tell me that more armor = less damage. If you are an evasion build or a build that uses some evasion, THERE IS NO REASON TO NOT TAKE IR.

It needs to be re-worked so that it's an "evasion" keystone. I love the idea of a glancing blows concept. Basically that would address the evasion problem of being 1-hit in late game.

Sure you can supplement evasion by using enfeeble or blind, going with block and stacking endurance charges, but then you are sacrificing many builds and tree selections just to say you went evasion.

I can't imagine many people went evasion only with no IR in the race. And if they did, they didn't last long. :)

Thank you for posting this GGG, very interesting to see!

As for the Scion dominance, it's probably Spectral Throw that is the problem. From the stats, as players get higher level, the Scion imbalance increases. This indicates to me that the safety and strength of Spectral Throw is at work here. No surprise to anyone though.

Also, Scion will be the most popular class for a while yet, since it is new. Irrespective of its power level.

Very nice. Love seeing information like this, very cool. Please keep doing this in the future for other races and leagues.

Good god 1500+ deaths normal tidal island...lol