BM and Auras - one of GGG's better jokes

Please also consider the effects removing the blood magic gem would have on other builds. Currently the only way to run a low life build is via the blood magic support. In addition you would make prism guardians incredibly sought after; probably as much as Kaoms and Shavronne's.

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Real_Wolf wrote:

You raise an interesting point.

If we take into account items + reservation on the tree, at what point is the 100% 'mana' cost on BM in tree (as opposed to 250% from BM support gem) outweighing the benefits of the running aura's on mana and paying 250% cost for your main skill?

Simple numbers, if reserving costs 500 health (ridiculous), and your skill costs normally 50 mana and attacks 3 times per second, thats 150 health/second with BM and 1500 health for the 3 auras. With BM support, you can easily hit the 3 auras without caring, but now your weapon is costing 125 'mana' and so you are burning 375 health/second, which would be more expensive to maintain and would take 4 seconds of attacking to have 'lost' the health you had reserved through the BM keystone

This example doesn't mean anything really. First of all, blood magic gem is only a 1.96 modifier at high levels. Secondly, whatever the BM keystone spec is replacing the blood magic gem with will have a mana cost multiplier. In reality these skills end up much much closer together cost wise.

But most importantly, players don't die because they took x damage per second. Players with blood magic leech way too much for their skill costs to be meaningful. The bottom line is the blood magic keystone player will have a LOT less health and be much more likely to die to a burst, which is what actually kills players in poe.

Blood Magic Support gem is better than the Passive skill imho but pretty much useless if you just don't have enough linked sockets for it. With better gear I could build my charas different of course, the support gem would eb more useful then, Active skills use BM, other ones like Auras use the mana pool. But I just don't have items with more than 4 linked sockets and usualy you need these sockets for your skills, BM gem is luxury or at least you have to sacrifice other support gems for it.

blood magic is the intrinsic flaw of high attack speed builds. you want resource independence?
well either dont get a shit load of attack speed or get blood magic.


my str heavy 1.5 aps scion can get away with 4l with just a blood magice gemed level 5 clarity and 2 mana regen nodes.

and i can run purity and hatred with no mana issues

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Blood Magic Support gem is better than the Passive skill imho but pretty much useless if you just don't have enough linked sockets for it

Everyone has at least one 5L item reaching end-game, it is not really difficult to get, neither really difficult to find with the shop indexer/IG trade chat.

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Fruz wrote:

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Blood Magic Support gem is better than the Passive skill imho but pretty much useless if you just don't have enough linked sockets for it

Everyone has at least one 5L item reaching end-game, it is not really difficult to get, neither really difficult to find with the shop indexer/IG trade chat.

I play selffound. ;) ONE single 5l item droped since open Beta start, a useless spear. I also once found a 5l white item at the NPC store, still use this with my witch.
Besides that, no luck. Crafting 5l is also not viable if you play selffound because you just don't have the currency to waste fusings & Co.

So 5l IS hard to get if you don't trade of play in partys for better loot. Again, Single Player poE is completely different than Multiplayer/trading PoE.

I play self found whenever I can.
I 5Linked my 2 5L pieces plus another one, fusings drops quite often, and you can get some from 6S items.
I think the average probability to roll a 5L is like 80 fusings or so ( don't remember exactly ).
And I have dropped many more fusings than those who linked that.
I have dropped one 5L item in the whole game, only one ( never found at vendor :(( ).

I never play in parties.

I do trade though, because I don't like vendoring items I could have used easily if I was playing another class, more than wasting them I prefer make one forum post with those items and bumping it, it's easy.


Although using the shop indexer to find an important piece of your gear is not difficult at all, and usually quite quick.


5L is meant to be an achievable goal by anyone reaching end-game, and it's the case atm.