Preliminary 0.11.5 Patch Notes

So... when can we expect the trap support gem to add a damage bonus to make up for the bigass cooldown that remains unchanged with this patch?

BTW anyone saying this is a nerf to bear/fire trap: the cooldowns have gone down from 8 seconds to 4. You'll basically get the same mileage out of one gem as you would now with 2 gems. Only difference is that you can't deal more than 3 traps damage at a time. I'd say that's pretty fair.

Now anyone using cold snap as their main skill however, without having a voll's equipped, is pretty fucked.

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Bunnu wrote:

Everyone complaining about trap nerfs: Did you notice they said that 0.11.6 is going to have new trap stuff? (along with the diamond/eternal newsletter also saying that 0.11.6 will be a good patch for trappers)

I'm not complaining either way... I would just like to point out that I feel like these changes should be done at the same time.

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Wooser69 wrote:

Now anyone using cold snap as their main skill however, without having a voll's equipped, is pretty fucked.

Oh, I trust we won't see that many cold snap - related suicide notes on forum.

I don't mind nerfs but why don't companies consider buffing the rest instead of nerfing a few? That way it's like balancing positively. I just don't get it....

Oh wait, I forgot that enduring cry will be harder to gain charges with now too. That sucks, I liked being able to build 3 charges off a single enemy before hitting a cooldown, meant I wouldn't instantly die to the whole pack of monsters nearby.

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Skills now start fully cooled down upon entering an area. For example, when you enter an area, your traps are immediately ready to use.

finally, it was getting annoying starting a map with no fire traps to use.

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Different instances of the same skill now share the same cooldown, except in the case that the cooldown is overridden by a support (for example, the Trap support). Note that this means that skills supported by the Trap support gem cannot be bypassed by charges when they normally would be able to be.

why? enduring cry isnt the only skill people can spam so why nerf all of them? i dont think anyone actually uses the power charges to bypass cold snap. its not worth it and has no synergy whatsoever, most would rather use ice spear for regular crit builds than use it to gain power charges with the new gem. as for flicker strike, it has perfect synergy with its skill gain so meh.

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Bear Trap's damage has been increased at lower levels and reduced at higher levels. It has been increased by 15% at level one and reduced by 20% at level 15.

another bear trap nerf, meh it can be overpowered in some builds.

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The number of charges produced by Enduring Cry has been increased at all levels.

the main reason for that cooldown nerf

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Quality on the Trap support gem now offers faster trap throwing instead of trap duration.

glade thats finally fixed, too bad so few actually use traps atm.

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Fire Trap's on-hit damage has been reduced at high levels (20% at Level 15). The damage of Fire Trap's burning ground has been increased by 50%.

perfect for by build, sad to see the decrease, but i do deal about 4-6k in explosion, more than most can do in 2-3 hits. the increased burning is going to be juicy, estimated bringing my burning ground upto 2600 from 1731.

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The cooldown times of traps (except for Conversion trap and the Trap support gem) have been lowered to four seconds.

i think thats rather hateful on conversion trap and trap support gem seeing as they are currently underated by most players. at least lower those gems CD to 6 seconds?

overall i like the changes, improves my trapper again. your just missing the update for searing bond, as it only deals about 950 burning at gem level 18, with no way to improve it further.

what's the point to destroy endurance dischargers... they were already the less powerfull discharger dps wise.. Oo

Sometimes I don't understand what the rationnal behind changes...

I just want to pop in and say that I am pretty disappointed with the changes to Fire Trap and shared CDs as well. This is certainly render my main character's build terrible and I am struggling to see any way to fix him. I am not against over-powered options getting nerfed but this change gets under my skin for a few reasons.

1) If the multiple versions of the same gem having different CDs thing was a bug, why were we never informed? In the past when a bug existed but was left in the game for awhile we were given a heads up so that many of us could choose not to put time into building around a mechanic that was definitely changing. If I had known this change was coming down the pipes I would not have invested the large amount of time that I did into my trap character over the last month or so.

2) It seems like Fire Trap was changed because of the effectiveness of a couple of certain builds. These builds were largely overpowered because of things like Elemental Proliferation and with the help of powerful unique items. However, after the changes it is only these builds which will stay useful. Most Fire Trap based builds struggle to be decent. The changes made in this patch strongly push players away from being able to use the skill as a primary option.

3) Edit: Someone pointed out to me that PvP is the reason for the CD changes which is the part I have an issue with. The damage debuff was probably needed. I was unaware before reading the other comments that PvP could be the culprit behind this change to the way that Fire Trap works. If the skill was changed for PvP reasons then I find that borderline unexceptable. This is a PVE game and massively overhauling skills to make a subsystem within the game work better is a bit of a kick in the teeth to the existing player base. Again though, I am not totally convinced this was the reasoning behind the changes.

Edit: Fixed a few grammatical errors.

meh. are we ever going to get anymore systems or new content? you know something els to do apart from your broken map system?

"The balance changes related to cooldowns have been made as the first steps towards the PvP balance we're working on for 1.0.0"

it is because of pvp.

Edit: "as well as upcoming new Trap skills for 0.11.6"

i should add that other part too.