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shroudb

Barzakov

LOL, sheesh you guys, you forgot something:
How do you expect do deal any significant damage when 90% of your attacks are dealing 25% normal damage?

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Xapti wrote:

LOL you forgot something:
How do you expect do deal any significant damage when 90% of your attacks are dealing 25% normal damage?

90% of the hits do 25% damage
10% of the hits crit for ~12.5x damage +apply burning for ~ 2/3 of this damage:

90%*0.25+10%*12.5=147.5% damage +7k dot

the ONE crit equalizes the rest of the hits being garbage.

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shroudb wrote:

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Xapti wrote:

LOL you forgot something:
How do you expect do deal any significant damage when 90% of your attacks are dealing 25% normal damage?

90% of the hits do 25% damage
10% of the hits crit for ~12.5x damage +apply burning for ~ 2/3 of this damage:

90%*0.25+10%*12.5=147.5% damage +7k dot

the ONE crit equalizes the rest of the hits being garbage.

Now do the math WITHOUT this amulet (70% multiplier instead) and tell me that it's higher.

Also I don't know what you mean by "for staves", because that means for staff attacks, not spells while wielding a staff.

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Xapti wrote:

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shroudb wrote:

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Xapti wrote:

LOL you forgot something:
How do you expect do deal any significant damage when 90% of your attacks are dealing 25% normal damage?

90% of the hits do 25% damage
10% of the hits crit for ~12.5x damage +apply burning for ~ 2/3 of this damage:

90%*0.25+10%*12.5=147.5% damage +7k dot

the ONE crit equalizes the rest of the hits being garbage.

Now do the math WITHOUT this amulet (20% crit chance, 70% multiplier instead) and tell me that it's higher.

Also I don't know what you mean by "for staves", because that means for staff attacks, not spells while wielding a staff.

cirt chance wouldn't do anything for incinerate it has 0% base crit, that's why i used it, it actually doesn't suffer from the drawback.

so without the amulet, you would have lower crit damage but same crit chance (10%)

Sure the 20% crit chance is useless so ignore that that was a silly oversight. The 70% crit multiplier amulet is still relevant.

If you do the math, you'd notice that you'll be doing 24% less damage with that unique amulet than with a 70% crit multiplier amulet.

In fact, you'd be doing 16% less damage compared to wearing NO AMULET AT ALL

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raics wrote:

I lolled so hard

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Xapti wrote:

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In fact, you'd be doing 16% less damage compared to wearing NO AMULET AT ALL

Oh dear...if that is true...How did GGG's balance team fail so badly..again

If you do the math, there is no possible solution of critical chance or critical multiplier which will allow any gain of damage (the solutions are above 100% crit chance and below 0% crit chance) — at least ignoring diamond flasks, which is a huge hassle just to gain the benefits of the amulet. It's also ignoring additive critical weakness.

In my opinion you'd have to be crazy to spend diamond flasks all the time just to gain the benefit of 80% increased multiplier and culling strike (even less than that benefit due to the 75% less non-crit damage) when you could spend less points into crit chance (and more into multiplier) and get a far superior benefit.

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ephetat wrote:

Ocylix, though I agree that your amulet's current incantation is too punishing in its drawbacks, I have to say it's the best design I've seen for some time. Congratulations!

thanks :)

i like how it creates a lot of theory-crafting hate/like.

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Xapti wrote:

Sure the 20% crit chance is useless so ignore that that was a silly oversight. The 70% crit multiplier amulet is still relevant.

If you do the math, you'd notice that you'll be doing 24% less damage with that unique amulet than with a 70% crit multiplier amulet.

the critical hit would do 7k instead of 8.5k
the dot would be 5k instead of 6.5k

as for total "dps" (my build is more focused around getting the crit+proliferating than staying put afterwards) but even in this case, the multiplier for the 70%crit damage amulet is:

90%*684+10%*7000+5000(dot's damage/sec)= 6315 dps (most of your damage is from the dot as you see)

vs my build that has

0.9*684*0.25+0.1*8500+6500 = 7500

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Xapti wrote:

If you do the math, there is no possible solution of critical chance or critical multiplier which will allow any gain of damage (the solutions are above 100% crit chance and below 0% crit chance) — at least ignoring diamond flasks, which is a huge hassle just to gain the benefits of the amulet.

In my opinion you'd have to be crazy to spend diamond flasks all the time just to gain the benefit of 80% increased multiplier and culling strike (even less than that benefit due to the 75% less non-crit damage) when you could spend less points into crit chance (and more into multiplier) and get a far superior benefit.

ehmm you gain 18.7% damage using the unique.

you also spent exactly 0 points into critical chance:

incinerate has 0 chance to crit. Crit weakness by iteslf is what gives you 10% cirt chance, and the only differance if you DON'T use this amulet is less damage (and less life/resists/etc that you could have on your own amulet)