{3.2.0} Spectral Gods: [Life Based Spectre/Golem Hybrid Summoner | Clear Speed | End Game Bossing]

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seppohovi69 wrote:

Hey. Got solid 13ex and 1500c saved up, ideas what to upgrade for even easier time on shaper and guardians?

Should be easy already...?
Nearly no need to put even more currency in this build
You can just faceroll the whole content ^^

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seppohovi69 wrote:

Hey. Got solid 13ex and 1500c saved up, ideas what to upgrade for even easier time on shaper and guardians?

Do 10 jewels build (it's on the new tree posted by matt), grab yourself 9 perfect abyss jewels + UH, get 21/20 spectres and dual curse setup with +1 ammy, then go and faceroll guardians as many times as you want. That's actually the thing me and my bud have been doing the past few days, just spamming guardians half asleep.

You can buy a 6x tukohama's shield and switch to tukohama's vanguards. They do even more single target then cannibals by a factor of 2.

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mattc3303 wrote:

You can buy a 6x tukohama's shield and switch to tukohama's vanguards. They do even more single target then cannibals by a factor of 2.

I'd have to disagree on this matt, I've tried TVs with the shield and ever since the nerf I've never had them killing stuff faster than Cannibals now (and with the new jewels Solar Guards kill guardians and shaper faster than Cannibals in previous leagues), I've had hard time maintaining more than 3 totems at a time even with TF, that's why I sold my shield early on. Granted I was using Cast Speed jewels at the time, results might differ if you min max them with inc. damage jewels, idk.

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beardedmagician wrote:

More of a generic question that i was hoping someone might know, the wiki appears outdated. Where exactly do bone helms drop so i can get my butt in gear crafting one lol?

Crafted this in ~10 alchs, as long as you understand it is a gamble and don't go overboard with all currency, no harm into having a ccy sink, just buy a white bone helm ilvl 82 and go to work

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sarahschneider wrote:

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mattc3303 wrote:

You can buy a 6x tukohama's shield and switch to tukohama's vanguards. They do even more single target then cannibals by a factor of 2.

I'd have to disagree on this matt, I've tried TVs with the shield and ever since the nerf I've never had them killing stuff faster than Cannibals now (and with the new jewels Solar Guards kill guardians and shaper faster than Cannibals in previous leagues), I've had hard time maintaining more than 3 totems at a time even with TF, that's why I sold my shield early on. Granted I was using Cast Speed jewels at the time, results might differ if you min max them with inc. damage jewels, idk.

Have you tried tagging them with dual wielding dyadus animate guardians? Thats 200% more burn damage.

Also do you have some videos on guardians with solar guards? It must be that extra 60% or more cast speed steroid we are getting from these op ghastly jewels.

Here is a comparison from last league:
solar => https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezkUxZ59fJQ Maybe like 10-15 seconds
cannibal => https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hZZIOqFvzI 5-8 seconds

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mattc3303 wrote:

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sarahschneider wrote:

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mattc3303 wrote:

You can buy a 6x tukohama's shield and switch to tukohama's vanguards. They do even more single target then cannibals by a factor of 2.

I'd have to disagree on this matt, I've tried TVs with the shield and ever since the nerf I've never had them killing stuff faster than Cannibals now (and with the new jewels Solar Guards kill guardians and shaper faster than Cannibals in previous leagues), I've had hard time maintaining more than 3 totems at a time even with TF, that's why I sold my shield early on. Granted I was using Cast Speed jewels at the time, results might differ if you min max them with inc. damage jewels, idk.

Have you tried tagging them with dual wielding dyadus animate guardians? Thats 200% more burn damage.

Also do you have some videos on guardians with solar guards? It must be that extra 60% or more cast speed steroid we are getting from these op ghastly jewels.

Here is a comparison from last league:
solar => https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezkUxZ59fJQ Maybe like 10-15 seconds
cannibal => https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hZZIOqFvzI 5-8 seconds

Yeah, I've exclusively used TVs to farm shaper last league with dual dyadus AG (I believe I haven't deleted that char yet), and did the same here something like a few days ago.

I'll try recording something on Chimera but I keep getting fps drops whenever I use OBS or Shadowplay so I can't promise you anything... :( I do believe that Cannibals are the best boss killer spectres this league, but I've never actually tried using them exclusively since Solar Guards have been doing a quite decent job so far.

Edit: Allright, I just tried running OBS inside Hydra and the screen just froze ... so. But well here's some loot pictures : https://imgur.com/a/5WjOb. And it's around 10 secs (maybe less? not sure). Pre-Abyss Vanguards were definitly faster, but I'm quite satisfied with Solar Guards this league.

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I'd have to disagree on this matt, I've tried TVs with the shield and ever since the nerf I've never had them killing stuff faster than Cannibals now (and with the new jewels Solar Guards kill guardians and shaper faster than Cannibals in previous leagues), I've had hard time maintaining more than 3 totems at a time even with TF, that's why I sold my shield early on. Granted I was using Cast Speed jewels at the time, results might differ if you min max them with inc. damage jewels, idk.

TV with shield is bad after patch, its actually faster without it. that being said, TV with 4-5 damage with minion skill jewel is still way faster and safer on shaper/uber atziri, but hardly noticeable with hydra(sometimes slower), all in all TV has better damage on station target with a lot of health, and you dont need to worry its AI wondering off. But, SG actually kill most below T15 boss fasteer, since it need no warm up time, and -fire resist is already over kill.

personally, I recommend this over TV on mapping, but purely farming shaper/guardian/uber still safer and quicker.

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Child_Of_Hundreds wrote:

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I'd have to disagree on this matt, I've tried TVs with the shield and ever since the nerf I've never had them killing stuff faster than Cannibals now (and with the new jewels Solar Guards kill guardians and shaper faster than Cannibals in previous leagues), I've had hard time maintaining more than 3 totems at a time even with TF, that's why I sold my shield early on. Granted I was using Cast Speed jewels at the time, results might differ if you min max them with inc. damage jewels, idk.

TV with shield is bad after patch, its actually faster without it. that being said, TV with 4-5 damage with minion skill jewel is still way faster and safer on shaper/uber atziri, but hardly noticeable with hydra(sometimes slower), all in all TV has better damage on station target with a lot of health, and you dont need to worry its AI wondering off. But, SG actually kill most below T15 boss fasteer, since it need no warm up time, and -fire resist is already over kill.

personally, I recommend this over TV on mapping, but purely farming shaper/guardian/uber still safer and quicker.

Yep, this might be the case. I'm not stacking minion damage on my jewels so my TVs were most likely underperforming at the time. And I can already kill guardians and shaper (he changes phase almost immediately) almost instantly with Solar Guards anyway so I see no reason to drop my Solar Guards for anything else since they have the most balanced performance out of any other alternatives.

Interesting saved me 6exalts for the shield. Thanks lol.