{3.2.0} Spectral Gods: [Life Based Spectre/Golem Hybrid Summoner | Clear Speed | End Game Bossing]

RIP Summoners!! How i put all of this in my ass?

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arielitojoya wrote:

RIP Summoners!!

You mean RIP snapshotting. Summoners are still strong, but I will also be the first to say we do need a buff. I know some can manage just fine without snapshotting and go to the highest map in the game and kill Uber Atziri without breaking a sweat, but it either takes GG gear or a specific summoner build and playstyle. I would rather not have to try to farm for that kind of equipment or be locked into a singular playstyle that is drastically different from how I want to play my summoner.

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GoatEatingToilet wrote:

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arielitojoya wrote:

RIP Summoners!!

You mean RIP snapshotting. Summoners are still strong, but I will also be the first to say we do need a buff. I know some can manage just fine without snapshotting and go to the highest map in the game and kill Uber Atziri without breaking a sweat, but it either takes GG gear or a specific summoner build and playstyle. I would rather not have to try to farm for that kind of equipment or be locked into a singular playstyle that is drastically different from how I want to play my summoner.

nahhh, again rip summoners!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaBsJT85c4Q

LoL GGG, GGG. Its been fun =D.

My interest in poe has been dipping quite a bit hadn't been playing for months now. I'll prob hop on and off if there is a interesting patch to play around with =).

I think summoner is still good as a solo clearer/farmer. But if your looking to build a uber character its probably better to look else where now. It is now far from being as good as character types that can invest in gear and get a stat return out of them. It would be stupid to walk around with almost all of the summoner uniques as the defensive stat is quite bad.

I think the ideal setup would still be a 6-L zombie then a 4-L spectre, auras, and fitting in support skills if you can.

You probably don't need to invest in minion life passives as much now as zombies will be expendable.

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mattc3303 wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaBsJT85c4Q

LoL GGG, GGG. Its been fun =D.

My interest in poe has been dipping quite a bit hadn't been playing for months now. I'll prob hop on and off if there is a interesting patch to play around with =).

I think summoner is still good as a solo clearer/farmer. But if your looking to build a uber character its probably better to look else where now. It is now far from being as good as character types that can invest in gear and get a stat return out of them. It would be stupid to walk around with almost all of the summoner uniques as the defensive stat is quite bad.

I think the ideal setup would still be a 6-L zombie then a 4-L spectre, auras, and fitting in support skills if you can.

You probably don't need to invest in minion life passives as much now as zombies will be expendable.

Unless spectres will be totally unusable without the life buff from snapshot. And we will be better off on full zombie build with instability.

I'll be glad when snapshotting is removed, but I do hope we get some buffs or useful toys down the line to close the gap.


Here's a repost of my thoughts on snapshotting:

I don't want to take longer than I have to. I don't want to die more than I have to. I play to win. Snapshotting is in the game, GGG has had years to do something about it, so I use it to my advantage. It makes me more powerful, but it's tiresome to set up. If GGG finally solves minion snapshotting, I will lose that power and that alone will make me sad, but I won't mind the loss of snapshotting because it was a pain in the ass to deal with. If it was gone, I wouldn't feel like I was missing out on my character's potential by not using snapshotting. If summoners end up noncompetitive in endgame as a result, then it will be easier to rally summoners in support for appropriate buffs.

I do not consider snapshotting inherently interesting. There is no real choice or cost beyond the boring setup time required. Please, do away with it so I don't feel compelled to waste my time doing something boring to save time doing something fun.

Will start getting 100+ exalteds in order for the 6L off color MoM chest, lol.


And where do we put those toys? It's not like we will have any space, everything that was done to summoner was to over-populate the links (even those so called buffs). 4l for the spectres, 6L for zombies, 4L+3L for the auras, 4L for the buffs, 2L arctic armor, still need convocation+rejuv totem somewhere...

I wasnt snapshotting ( well, only Montegrul Grasp ) and I was able to clear all end game content. So learn to play without it and you will see that you don't need snapshot at all.

The only point is that I am afraid you will need Shavronne 6L to go well so summoner will become a very expensiv build.

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Malone wrote:

I wasnt snapshotting ( well, only Montegrul Grasp ) and I was able to clear all end game content. So learn to play without it and you will see that you don't need snapshot at all.

The only point is that I am afraid you will need Shavronne 6L to go well so summoner will become a very expensiv build.

So you didn't snapshot, but you did? Stop with ltps, everyoen here knows anough about summoner to see that youre talking out off a very dark spot. It is a fact that without snapshot minions will be much more fragile and we will be very very starved for sockets. Not to mention most summoner uniques being reduced to vendor trash.

Possible to play and fun to play are different things, I do not want to hide and run around monster packs with my summoner. I want to run in like every other so called end game viable build that tears through end game maps like butter. I do not want to be afraid that aroudn teh corner there is a boss or exile that will kill my spectres and will be forced to go and get new ones, that is just boring.

bullshits

Without any snapshot, minions have more than 8k hp, overcapped resist, life regen, life leech ... what do you need more ?

Minion can die ? yes and ? are they supposed to be immortal ? no.

Snapshotting for summoner was completely overkill for most of the game content, and completely counterproductiv for the hardest one ( atziry and hard hitter AOE bosses ).
This is my experience of lvl 91 summoner.. ( anyway levelling more was pointless , I had all the passives point I needed to faceroll everything )

There is absolutely no need no boost anything even if snapshot is fixed, that would be just crazy.