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Dextera wrote:
i think i broke the game more!!!
Got 9 auras 8 zombies 3 spectres and i stroll through all level maps like its nothing and have now killed all bosses on all maps wit out losing a minion now including courtyard......
http://www.twitch.tv/lord_sinistra if you care to watch me play ill be on most the night.
You lost quite a number of zombies, still very nice game though.
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Posted byraytkh#7785on Jan 2, 2014, 11:19:34 PM
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Dextera wrote:
i think i broke the game more!!!
Got 9 auras 8 zombies 3 spectres and i stroll through all level maps like its nothing and have now killed all bosses on all maps wit out losing a minion now including courtyard......
http://www.twitch.tv/lord_sinistra if you care to watch me play ill be on most the night.
You lost quite a number of zombies, still very nice game though.
That was the Unique maze map lvl 74 it has like 9 bosses lol of course i will lose something
But i did it wrong we killed all the trash mobs on the way to the 4 first bosses leaving nothing to get flask charges in between totem bosses so next time we will kill the totems when we get to each door that way i will have flask at the beginning of each fight!!!
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Posted byDextera#5538on Jan 3, 2014, 12:38:00 AM
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Dextera wrote:
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raytkh wrote:
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Dextera wrote:
i think i broke the game more!!!
Got 9 auras 8 zombies 3 spectres and i stroll through all level maps like its nothing and have now killed all bosses on all maps wit out losing a minion now including courtyard......
http://www.twitch.tv/lord_sinistra if you care to watch me play ill be on most the night.
You lost quite a number of zombies, still very nice game though.
That was the Unique maze map lvl 74 it has like 9 bosses lol of course i will lose something
But i did it wrong we killed all the trash mobs on the way to the 4 first bosses leaving nothing to get flask charges in between totem bosses so next time we will kill the totems when we get to each door that way i will have flask at the beginning of each fight!!!
Yes flask charges are very important during boss fight.
I saw you only summon grasp zombies.
How do you deal with double reflect maps?
My BoR summoned zombies often kill themselves when killing a bunch of mobs at the same time.
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Posted byraytkh#7785on Jan 3, 2014, 1:00:40 AM
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i try and not do them but if i do i am more careful to make sure BMs are at the head of the pack.
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Posted byDextera#5538on Jan 3, 2014, 1:24:45 AM
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Its possible to mf with it. I can't say that I'm a good example since I dropped a lot of mf for survavalability. I now run 150-170 IIR on gear + a very little bit of IIQ. And snapshot minions with mf gems on easier content, like while farming piety, sometimes dominus and lower maps. The amount of damage one can get from CoD alone is so big that leaving out some dps (sometimes even defensive) gems from minions doesn't hurt much.
Just get some IIR+IIQ on every piece, but don't forget about resist cap and life on every bit of equipment. Andvarius is only viable if its near perfect, since it's drawback is decieving. It's not just -20% resist, you also lose resists you could get from rare ring, life and/or mana and regen.
P.S. While the freeze mine is still with us, not using mf gems on minions on lower content is silly in my opinion.
I might be wrong but havent we concluded that MF gems can be added after snappshotting and it will work?
Or do we need to snapshot with them?
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Posted byNiNcsszaM#3766on Jan 3, 2014, 4:49:00 AM
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I might be wrong but havent we concluded that MF gems can be added after snappshotting and it will work?
Or do we need to snapshot with them?
I'm pretty sure it's not how snapshoting works. Or else you would have been able to do a 12l spectre/zombies. There is no way that mf gems are coded differently than other supports.
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Allnamestaken wrote:
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NiNcsszaM wrote:
I might be wrong but havent we concluded that MF gems can be added after snappshotting and it will work?
Or do we need to snapshot with them?
I'm pretty sure it's not how snapshoting works. Or else you would have been able to do a 12l spectre/zombies. There is no way that mf gems are coded differently than other supports.
I vaguely remember somebody saying that IIQ, IIR gems are checked at the time of the kill while things like the damage or the HP of summons are snapshotted.
Right now I'm at work and too lazy to search for it.
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Posted byNiNcsszaM#3766on Jan 3, 2014, 6:44:53 AM
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NiNcsszaM wrote:
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Allnamestaken wrote:
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NiNcsszaM wrote:
I might be wrong but havent we concluded that MF gems can be added after snappshotting and it will work?
Or do we need to snapshot with them?
I'm pretty sure it's not how snapshoting works. Or else you would have been able to do a 12l spectre/zombies. There is no way that mf gems are coded differently than other supports.
I vaguely remember somebody saying that IIQ, IIR gems are checked at the time of the kill while things like the damage or the HP of summons are snapshotted.
Right now I'm at work and too lazy to search for it.
Unless GGG confirmed it, there is no way to verify this statement.
I do not see any reason why IIR/IIQ support gems would work differently as other gems.
IGN TylordRampage Last edited by Malone#6946 on Jan 3, 2014, 10:01:27 AM
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Posted byMalone#6946on Jan 3, 2014, 10:01:00 AM
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NiNcsszaM wrote:
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Allnamestaken wrote:
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NiNcsszaM wrote:
I might be wrong but havent we concluded that MF gems can be added after snappshotting and it will work?
Or do we need to snapshot with them?
I'm pretty sure it's not how snapshoting works. Or else you would have been able to do a 12l spectre/zombies. There is no way that mf gems are coded differently than other supports.
I vaguely remember somebody saying that IIQ, IIR gems are checked at the time of the kill while things like the damage or the HP of summons are snapshotted.
Right now I'm at work and too lazy to search for it.
No. IIR/IIQ gems must be snapshotted like any other support gem. MF on gear is what is checked at the time of the kill.
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Posted bydessloc#7718on Jan 3, 2014, 10:12:15 AM
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NiNcsszaM wrote:
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Allnamestaken wrote:
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NiNcsszaM wrote:
I might be wrong but havent we concluded that MF gems can be added after snappshotting and it will work?
Or do we need to snapshot with them?
I'm pretty sure it's not how snapshoting works. Or else you would have been able to do a 12l spectre/zombies. There is no way that mf gems are coded differently than other supports.
I vaguely remember somebody saying that IIQ, IIR gems are checked at the time of the kill while things like the damage or the HP of summons are snapshotted.
Right now I'm at work and too lazy to search for it.
No. IIR/IIQ gems must be snapshotted like any other support gem. MF on gear is what is checked at the time of the kill.[/quote]
Ah ok good to hear that. Now I feel weird running around with an IIR gem for the scpectres after snapshotting yesterday :).
Which gem(s if both IIQ,IIR) would you take out when snapshotting for MF?
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Posted byNiNcsszaM#3766on Jan 3, 2014, 10:39:56 AM
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